Moving up in SNGs - Question

[jimmy44]

Guys,

Since I was lucky enough to win a big tourney (at least for me ) which brought my BR to about $1,300, I think it's time to move up in SNGs.

For the moment I've been playing:
- Stars:
- $5.50 1-table (28 games): ROI 4%
- $5.50 2-tables (6 games): ROI 170%
- $6.50 1-table (10 games): ROI 35%
- Titan:
- $2.40 2-tables (28 games): ROI 40%

With my new BR I think I should move up, at least, because I can afford it now. The thing is that I did not play too many SNGs and for example for the $5.50 stars 1 table I have not proven myself as a good SNG player and for the others I did not played enough to know.

So, basically, I have not proven yet to be a profitable SNG player, but should I still move up, like for example: $11 1-table Stars? (actually I think I could even move up to $22, but I would be playing scared and that is the first reason for failure!) Or you think I should first try to proove to be a good SNG player at the levels I play?

I know most of you will say: Move up!

Thanks for help!

[drmcboy]

move to 10s, make sure you don't jump off a cliff the first time you go OOTM 10 in a row, then if your roll still says you can(~750), move up to 20s. Don't be afraid to move down if you drop under 25 buyins. More if you play a lot of tables, but I hope you are single or double tabling for now.

[taipan168]

If you like the turbo format, move to the $16 turbos, they are not much harder than the $6.50s, you've got a bit more fold equity (ie. they generally won't call your any two cards short stack push from the SB with T9 soooted) and it's the best rake deal on the net (only 6.25% entry fee).

Just stay off my tables!

[Da GOAT]

If you like the turbo format, move to the $16 turbos, they are not much harder than the $6.50s, you've got a bit more fold equity (ie. they generally won't call your any two cards short stack push from the SB with T9 soooted) and it's the best rake deal on the net (only 6.25% entry fee).

Just stay off my tables!

advise from someone awake at 6 am

he's right tho and it'll toughen up up regards variance

[jimmy44]

move to 10s, make sure you don't jump off a cliff the first time you go OOTM 10 in a row, then if your roll still says you can(~750), move up to 20s. Don't be afraid to move down if you drop under 25 buyins. More if you play a lot of tables, but I hope you are single or double tabling for now.

LOL !!! I'll try not to jump of the cliff
Yeah, I only do 1 table. I'm not confident enough of my reading skills to move to 2 tables.

If you like the turbo format, move to the $16 turbos, they are not much harder than the $6.50s, you've got a bit more fold equity (ie. they generally won't call your any two cards short stack push from the SB with T9 soooted) and it's the best rake deal on the net (only 6.25% entry fee).

Just stay off my tables!

I'll maybe try a couple of $16. And no, I won't stay of your tables )

he's right tho and it'll toughen up up regards variance

Do you mean that at the $16 tables, you have less variance? That'll be good, 'cus I hate it, as everybody else [/quote]

[taipan168]

BTW, well done on the MTT cash!

[taipan168]

Do you mean that at the $16 tables, you have less variance? That'll be good, 'cus I hate it, as everybody else

Personally I've found that the $16s have less variance than the $6.50s but I have a small sample size in both. My theory is that this is because $16 players are in general tighter than $6.50 players so when you raise with your AKo you might get called by 1-2 players (rather than 5 players with completely random hands) making it a bit easier to know if you're good when you hit the flop, plus you can make a c-bet against 1 player if you miss.

Don't mistake this for thinking that you will have a higher ROI at the $16s than at the $6.50s though!

[Da GOAT]

he's right tho and it'll toughen up up regards variance

Do you mean that at the $16 tables, you have less variance? That'll be good, 'cus I hate it, as everybody else

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i meant to type toughen you up regards variance. i played regular $11 before hitting $16 so got hit more variance that way. tai's right tho on the $16 compared to the $6.50's but players are a bit better

[TLR]

Your sample size is very small, so there is no way to know if you are even a winning player, I hope that you are (posting on FTR is a good sign that you either are or will be)

I personally dont think you should move up just because you have the cash, I believe you should move up if you have proven that you can consistently win at your current level (which you havent).

However if you play less then your A game on the level you are at because the money that you win or lose does not mean much to you then you have no choice but to move up.

[Da GOAT]

However if you play less then your A game on the level you are at because the money that you win or lose does not mean much to you then you have no choice but to move up.

this is very true. $11 SNG's bored the shit out of me. $16 add more action tho they are turbos. regular are BORING though if you multi its probably good.

[jimmy44]

Thanks for the gratz Tai!

As for the less variance for the $16, I just played one and boy that everyone is very tight when we where 6 players with roughly the same stack size!

I would not even expect to have half the ROI for $16 compared to the $6.5


Thanks for the feedback TLR! I must say that I was expecting someone to hint just that, as for the moment I'll feel more comfortable that way. I think I'm going to continue with the $5.5 2-table (I love those! Thanks for the advice courtiebee!), but I'll do more $6.5 turbos as I feel more confortable now with my BR. I'll probably try once in a while a $11 or a turbo $16.

[johnny_fish]

Variance is always ~1.6 buyins no matter the playing styles/roi's etc. due to the Sng payout structure.