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  1. #1

    Default Very confused...Pairs of aces

    Both are $20 1 table $20's...

    1. opp has played about 80% of hands in 1st two blind levels. Got the chips by calling a raise UTG+1 with T9s, checking a turned flush and raising a river bet. This was definetly not expected...just from the flop action it just seemed like he was really weak....

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG (t2965)
    MP1 (t1595)
    MP2 (t1150)
    CO (t2465)
    Hero (t1885)
    SB (t1970)
    BB (t1470)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, A.
    1 fold, MP1 calls t30, 1 fold, CO raises to t90, Hero calls t90, SB calls t75, BB calls t60, MP1 folds.

    Flop: (t390) A, 3, J (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets t200, SB folds, BB folds, CO calls t200.

    Turn: (t790) 5 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets t400, CO raises to t800, Hero is in

    2. Opps stats were about 20/10'ish. I had raised about 4 times in the last 2 orbits after playing really tight early. Really don't know what to think about this...just clueless

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t3700)
    SB (t2280)
    BB (t3350)
    Hero (t2210)
    MP (t1960)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, T.
    Hero raises to t300, 3 folds, BB calls t200.

    Flop: (t650) A, 6, 2 (2 players)
    BB bets t3050 (All-In), Hero
  2. #2
    Shove the 1st, if he has 2 pair so be it. If he has 55 you can spend the next few minutes abusing him n the chatbox. I just can't bring myself to fold this even to the dreaded minraise.

    Call the 2nd. There is no way he is doing this with a set or a big A. I'd say he has a fd. This really looks like a stop 'n' go.
  3. #3
    Hand#1: I dont think folding preflop is a bad idea here, I dont see many hands that you beat playing this way, he probably has AJ or AK
    Hand#2: I call this, I think you are ahead more often then you are behind


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    hand 1: I'll fold, he most likely has AK/AJ or maybe a set.
    hand 2: A difficult one, but as ShowMeAtlas said, this seems to be a stop'n'go. So I'll call.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    hand 2: A difficult one, but as ShowMeAtlas said, this seems to be a stop'n'go. So I'll call.
    and a horribly misused stop n go at that
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    isn't reraising preflop the right play in hand one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    isn't reraising preflop the right play in hand one?
    This early I will probably fold and not reraise


  8. #8
    If he has 55 you can spend the next few minutes abusing him in the chatbox
    Brilliant, advice of the day!

    TLR - I'm surprised you're folding AQ in hand 1 though thinking about it I can see why. Anyone prefer a call / raise?
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by marmot
    If he has 55 you can spend the next few minutes abusing him in the chatbox
    Brilliant, advice of the day!

    TLR - I'm surprised you're folding AQ in hand 1 though thinking about it I can see why. Anyone prefer a call / raise?
    This early I dont like calling with AQ, I would open raise with AQ, but with a limp and a raise before meand the blinds yet to act I really dont like it.
    If you call pot is 255 and BB and limper has to call 60 into 255, thats better then 4:1, so they may call with pretty much any 2, and you find yourself in a 4 way pot, with not real idea where you are.

    The problem with reraising here is the initial raiser range: Without a read I would probably put him on 88+, AK-AJ, KQ. I am ahead of AJ, KQ, flipping with 88-JJ and behind AK,AA-QQ, so I dont like my chances here


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    opp has played about 80% of hands in 1st two blind levels.
    Reraise preflop.

    Flop: Bet a bit more, 300. Check the turn if you're unsure about what to do with a c/r. Get a river bet in if he checks the river.

    hand 2: lol, weird bet. I think I'd call. Doesn't seem like he wants a call.
  11. #11
    I like jfish line for hand 1. as played I think I have to fold. Call hand 2.

    If he has 55 you can spend the next few minutes announcing you're a tilting table coach and maybe helping him play better next time
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    Hand 1: has villian been raising a lot of hands though? Or is he just calling a lot? Generally speaking, I would fold to AQ to a raise preflop early in a SnG. I agree with the people who say to reraise if he's been loose with his raises though.

    Looks like two pairs, gotta fold.

    Hand 2: definitely calling.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by drmcboy
    I like jfish line for hand 1. as played I think I have to fold. Call hand 2.

    If he has 55 you can spend the next few minutes announcing you're a tilting table coach and maybe helping him play better next time
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  14. #14
    Hand 1: The most reliable read I've gotten is that check-call followed by check-raise is a big hand. I do not ever remember seeing this line when this was not true. So I like a fold. I agree with the call preflop if opp had been limping a lot of hands; if he'd been raising a lot, then I reraise.

    Hand 2: Looks like an easy call to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned over a flush draw.
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