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  1. #1

    Default Bottom set fold

    Villain's 56/14, hasn't been very aggressive postflop until now...

    Full Tilt Poker
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1/$2
    6 players
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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $278.75
    Hero: $321.45
    CO: $80
    Button: $44.70
    SB: $262.70
    BB: $192.20

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 2 2
    UTG folds, Hero calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB calls, BB (poster) checks.

    Flop: 5 7 2 ($10, 5 players)
    SB bets $6, BB folds, Hero calls, CO raises to $18, Button folds, SB raises to $86, Hero folds, CO folds.
    Uncalled bets: $68 returned to SB.

    Results:
    Final pot: $52
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    raised that flop everytime

    as played, i like it, but do you fold if sb has only 100bb? I think you have to push against a guy like that if he's a bit less deep cause he probably completes 72s, 52s and may possibly think they are the nuts.
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    NO DON'T FOLD A SET HERE HYACHAJHCYJZIK,ECDSF23EW

    You get the point. Don't fold sets against 56/14 donks here, you aren't even deep. He made such a monster flop raise it looks like he is protecting a two pair hand or a slowplayed overpair, this is really not the spot to fold a set, simple as that.
  4. #4

    Default Re: Bottom set fold

    Quote Originally Posted by Warpe
    Villain's 56/14
    I pay this off.
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    yeah, i take what i said back, I never fold this in practice. I'm just curious as to how deep the stacks would have to be before a fold is considered vs a 56/14 who's passive postflop.
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    I'd read the thread where i folded bottom set and everyone ripped me.
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    Seriously man, WTF is wrong with anyone who isn't counting your Sklansky bucks in this spot?

    This guy is completing his SB with *any* 2 cards. There is no possible straight. Even if we put him on 2 pair or better we get this:

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    Board: 7h 5d 2c
    Dead:

    equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
    Hand 1: 62.4531 % 62.45% 00.00% { 2d2s }
    Hand 2: 37.5469 % 37.55% 00.00% { 77, 55, 75s, 72s, 52s, 75o, 72o, 52o }

    Now throw in him getting tricky with AA/KK, pushing an OSD or thinking A7 is the nuts and all sorts of other absurd stuff. If you don't gamble here, you're done playing for the day.

    If he shows you a bigger set, oh well GIVE ME A DEUCE!!!!
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    its a better fold than isf's, but its still a horrendous fold nonetheless.
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    yikes
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    yeah ISF the action leading to your spot is totally different, I instacall in that hand.

    There would definitely be thought involved here if the SB didnt play so many hands.
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