77 flops overpair, how is this line? ($16)

[taipan168]

It's early but opp was nothing out of the ordinary, HUD stats were something like 17/0. How is this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button (t1435)
SB (t635)
Hero (t1470)
UTG (t1210)
UTG+1 (t1725)
MP1 (t1590)
MP2 (t2275)
CO (t3160)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, 7.
4 folds, CO raises to t90, Button calls t90, SB calls t75, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t360) 6, 2, 3 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t200, CO folds, Button calls t200, SB folds.

Turn: (t760) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t400, Button calls t400.

River: (t1560) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t240, Hero calls t240.

Final Pot: t2040

[Da GOAT]

c/r flop. most turn and river cards hurt you.

i dont like these spots since overpairs kill you.

[MuddyWicket]

I prefer a stronger bet on the flop. Your hand is not likely to improve and any further cards are scare cards. I bet 300 on the flop to try and take it down there and then. You also ended up out of position for rest of the hand which makes further plays harder.

Checking and seeing no one bet could put you in a bad position, I'm not sure your strong enough here to do that.

[Da GOAT]

Checking and seeing no one bet could put you in a bad position, I'm not sure your strong enough here to do that.

checking will give you more info on opp's hands than betting. if PF raiser bets you can discount his hand a fair bit, also since PFR is right next to us we will see what others do, if they raise PFR we are gone.

this way we see what others will do before our planned check/raise. if everyone checks and an over card comes then meh we havent put much in the pot.

[MuddyWicket]

Fair points.

I struggle with this type of hand, this early, BIG M, etc. I don't feel comfortable commiting a large portion of 'tourney life' with small overpair.

I've been in this position a few times recently, out of position and no idea what I am being called with and leaking a fair few chips. Betting hard and walking away if there is great resistance has seemed to be preferable.

Maybe check/raise or check/fold if too much action is an alternative I will have try.

[Da GOAT]

Maybe check/raise or check/fold if too much action is an alternative I will have try.

these type of hand i find very marginal which is why i like to see what others are going to do. the position of the PFR is why i like my line here, i may do something else if he wasnt. every situation is different.

if PFR bets and someone else RR,im gone
If he bets and gets a caller im pushing(i think)
if he bets and its folded to me i push since there is a good chance he is just c/b which most opp's overdo.

[taipan168]

Thanks for the replies, I think Goat's C-R flop line was the best here. I'm reading NLHETAP at the moment and Sklansky/Miller talk about absolute and relative position, this hand is a good example of the latter.

[Da GOAT]

I'm reading NLHETAP at the moment and Sklansky/Miller talk about absolute and relative position, this hand is a good example of the latter.

book any good?? i think this needs to be my next purchase of books. tho i havent got enough value out of HOH3 or TOP yet. reread a bit of SS2, caro part while cooking.

[taipan168]

I'm reading NLHETAP at the moment and Sklansky/Miller talk about absolute and relative position, this hand is a good example of the latter.

book any good?? i think this needs to be my next purchase of books. tho i havent got enough value out of HOH3 or TOP yet. reread a bit of SS2, caro part while cooking.

The book is DA NUTS. It's quite mathematical (but that appeals to me) and it has all the Sklansky rigour that you get in TOP but with the readability of SSH. I bought the book using Stars FPPs, it's fantastic IMO.

[jimmy44]

Hey guys,
Is NLHETAP the book: "No Limit Hold 'em: Theory and Practice"?

Thanks!

[taipan168]

Hey guys,
Is NLHETAP the book: "No Limit Hold 'em: Theory and Practice"?

Thanks!

Yep, that's it.

[Da GOAT]

I'm reading NLHETAP at the moment and Sklansky/Miller talk about absolute and relative position, this hand is a good example of the latter.

book any good?? i think this needs to be my next purchase of books. tho i havent got enough value out of HOH3 or TOP yet. reread a bit of SS2, caro part while cooking.

The book is DA NUTS. It's quite mathematical (but that appeals to me) and it has all the Sklansky rigour that you get in TOP but with the readability of SSH. I bought the book using Stars FPPs, it's fantastic IMO.

ill get it by xmas so