Anyone feel like agreeing with me?

[Ravageur]

I'm insanely big early in the Stars 3$ rebuy (I have a crazy table image to go with my big stack) and villain in this hand is the only person on the table that can do real damage to me. Nothing stands out about him, he ran well in the rebuy hour whereas I just went all in on every hand to get big

My friend Genitruc was railing me and he thought this was an absolute insta-call. I thought it was a pretty easy fold.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 (t14770)
MP3 (t14700)
CO (t8125)
Hero (t46091)
SB (t9960)
BB (t12075)
UTG (t23012)
UTG+1 (t4550)
MP1 (t5000)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5, 5.
UTG calls t150, UTG+1 calls t150, 2 folds, MP3 calls t150, CO calls t150, Hero calls t150, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: (t975) A, 5, 7 (6 players)
BB checks, UTG bets t450, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises to t1200, BB folds, UTG raises to t22862,

[Renton]

seems like a fold

[Renton]

however, with your image, i think u are forced to call this. Its very possible he limped in with a suited ace and flopped two pair.

[Ravageur]

Yeah that's what Genitruc was saying, but I think it's AA more than it is that. Anyway here's another interesting hand a while later that we disagreed on.

Villain is a semi-donk. I was like 80% sure that neither opponents had a strong draw as I thought they'd bet it considering how noone had shown any strength on the flop. That's why I checked behind on the turn. This is also why I wanted to call the river 3-bet and Geni thought it was an obv fold despite the price I was getting because it could only be a flush.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t11008)
UTG+1 (t20150)
MP1 (t8625)
Hero (t31851)
MP3 (t3745)
CO (t15100)
Button (t54724)
SB (t9100)
BB (t18500)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, 9.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t400, 1 fold, Hero calls t400, 4 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (t1400) J, Q, 2 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t1400) J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1400) 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t1600, Hero raises to t4000, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to t6400

[Genitruc]

lol

never said "insta" in the same sentence as "call"

i said it sucks u have to call this cuz of your image and the suckiness of plyaers at your table who are willing to stack off with a pair

i said "sux" cuz I was pretty sure as well that your hand wwasn't good

[Genitruc]

didn t realize u were getting such a good price on the river call

obv u can t fold even though u r beat like 99% of time

then again, I think my reads suck cuz i m not a donkament player so I never know wtf ppl are doing

[JeffreyGB]

I think you have to call the J9 river bet too, though I think failing to bet on both the flop and the turn was a mistake (charge your opps to draw against you when you have a vulnerable hand...and you do), as well as raising on the river (what is he paying you off with? What better hands are folding?).

In the first hand, I find it very hard to fold without a read. Your position in the tournament, while drastically affected either way, isn't bad if you lose. Further, I find A LOT more hands that play villian's line than AA / 77. Either of those should feel like he has the nuts. I'd expect Ax, two pair, and even draws each at least as often as the two hands that beat you. If you had a strong read, there's more room for argument, but as is, I probably call even without your image, and especially with it.

[Ravageur]

I really think either villains in the j9 hand would have bet the flop or turn with a flush draw, but I agree my check was odd and probably not optimal. As far as paying me off, I have a ridiculous table image and twice had open pushed flops with overpairs and gotten called by WORSE than 2nd pair.

I expect to get called here by worse jacks, any queen, and maybe mid pocket pairs. I agree however that when he 4-bets, it's almost always a flush. I think just calling the river is losing value though, but i could be dead wrong.

[DaNutsInYoEye]

I In the first hand, I find it very hard to fold without a read. Your position in the tournament, while drastically affected either way, isn't bad if you lose. Further, I find A LOT more hands that play villian's line than AA / 77. Either of those should feel like he has the nuts. I'd expect Ax, two pair, and even draws each at least as often as the two hands that beat you.

I agree. Since you limped PF after all those people he has to think he has the nuts if he has a higher set. Is he going to 3-bet AI for such a massive amount compared to the pot size with such a strong hand? Seems rather suspect to me, especially coming from the $3 r/a. I'd be more inclined to think he has two pair. If you lose you still have a nice stack. It seems like a good opportunity to accumulate a lot of chips so I'd most likely call.

[Genitruc]

villains had AA in 1st hand and K10 (wtf???) in 2nd hand

[pantherhound]

IMO hand one is an instacall from Instacalltown studying Instacall Studies at Instacalldale university in Instacallbridge.

[Ravageur]

IMO hand one is an instacall from Instacalltown studying Instacall Studies at Instacalldale university in Instacallbridge.

Lol, I just read your 'location' and laughed really hard after reading this post