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    Default $16 SNG - HH trimmed - very short ;-)

    Hey guys,

    Could you have a look at the HH? Anything you would do different?
    BTW, I had the pleasure to play with tai here

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    ---Statistics---
    Data for 53 hands.
    You played 7 hands (13.21%).
    You raised 3 times preflop (5.66%).



    [Ac 8s] CO (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [4d 5h] CO-1 (M=50.00; c+f+f+f+F)
    [As Th] MP2 (M=50.00; f+f+f+F)
    [2c 9c] MP1 (M=50.00; f+f+F)
    [Qh 7h] UTG+1 (M=50.00; f+F)
    [7d Ks] UTG (M=50.00; F)
    [2h 6s] BB (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+c+f+r+f+F)
    [9s 3s] SB (M=49.33; f+f+f+c+f+c+f+F)
    [Th Ks] BU (M=32.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [5d 8s] CO (M=32.67; f+c+f+r+p+F)
    [6h Js] CO-1 (M=32.67; f+f+r+f+F)
    [Ts Td] MP2 (M=32.67; r+f+f+F)
    [Qc 3h] MP1 (M=32.67; f+c+F)
    [Qs 6d] UTG+1 (M=32.67; f+F)

    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 32.67
    PokerStars Game #7152149572: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/11/24 - 05:23:01 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1285 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1365 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1425 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1560 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1600 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1805 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1470 in chips)
    Frostvik: posts small blind 15
    arjun13: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [6d 6s]
    Hero: calls 30
    1benito1: calls 30
    elorap: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: calls 30
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: calls 15
    arjun13: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5d 2h 8s]
    Frostvik: checks
    arjun13: checks
    Hero: checks
    1benito1: bets 210
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: folds
    1benito1 collected 150 from pot
    1benito1: doesn't show hand


    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 19.20
    PokerStars Game #7152153369: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/11/24 - 05:24:03 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1405 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1335 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1425 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1560 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1570 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1775 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1440 in chips)
    arjun13: posts small blind 25
    Hero: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jc 7d]
    1benito1: calls 50
    elorap: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: calls 25
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Th Td 9c]
    arjun13: checks
    Hero: checks
    1benito1: bets 250
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: folds
    1benito1 collected 150 from pot
    1benito1: doesn't show hand

    [2h 6h] SB (M=18.53; f+f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
    [4h 2s] BU (M=18.20; c+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [8c 2s] CO (M=18.20; f+f+f+c+f+F)
    [8c 6c] CO-1 (M=18.20; f+f+f+f+F)
    [3s Ad] MP2 (M=18.20; f+f+f+F)
    [6h 7s] MP1 (M=18.20; f+f+F)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 9.10
    PokerStars Game #7152169144: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/24 - 05:28:28 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1405 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1390 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1260 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1425 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1535 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1550 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1845 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1725 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1365 in chips)
    taipan168: posts small blind 50
    Frostvik: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jh Ad]
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: raises 200 to 300
    1benito1: folds
    elorap: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe has timed out
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe is sitting out
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    Hero collected 250 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [Jh 7s] UTG (M=10.10; F)
    [3d Jd] BB (M=10.10; f+f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 9.43
    PokerStars Game #7152175016: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/24 - 05:30:08 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1405 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1390 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1260 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1575 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1535 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1695 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1725 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1415 in chips)
    Hero: posts small blind 50
    1benito1: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [3s Qc]
    elorap: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: calls 50
    1benito1: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5s 9d 6s]
    Hero: bets 100
    1benito1: folds
    Hero collected 200 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [6s 6c] BU (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) ==>>>>> I think this was my only mistake, I should have raised or push. What do you think?

    [Qc 2c] CO (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [8c Qh] CO-1 (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+F)
    [Jh Tc] MP2 (M=10.10; f+f+f+F)
    [7d 2s] MP1 (M=10.10; f+r+F)
    [As 8c] UTG+1 (M=6.73; f+F)
    [9d 2h] UTG (M=6.73; F)
    [Td 9h] BB (M=6.73; f+f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    [6d 5d] SB (M=6.07; f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    [Ts Qd] BU (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+f+f+F)
    [6s 2c] CO (M=5.73; f+f+f+r+f+F)
    [Qh Jd] CO-1 (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+F)
    [4c Jd] MP2 (M=5.73; f+f+f+F)
    [As 6c] MP1 (M=5.73; f+f+F)
    [2d Jc] UTG+1 (M=4.30; r+F)
    [5d Kd] UTG (M=4.30; F)
    [Tc Ac] BB (M=4.30; f+p+f+f+f+p+f+f+F)
    [Tc 5c] SB (M=3.63; p+f+f+f+f+f+p+F)
    [Kd 3c] BU (M=3.30; f+f+p+f+f+F)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 3.30
    PokerStars Game #7152219558: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/11/24 - 05:41:52 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1040 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1495 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (2135 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (2750 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1320 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (2270 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (990 in chips)
    SeeMeFleaMe: posts small blind 100
    xRt!: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ac 5d]
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: raises 790 to 990 and is all-in
    1benito1: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Hero collected 500 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [Js 5c] MP2 (M=4.30; f+f+f+F)
    [Jc 3s] MP1 (M=4.30; f+f+F)
    [9h Kh] UTG+1 (M=2.58; f+F)
    [9c Qs] UTG (M=2.53; F)
    [4d Jh] BB (M=2.48; f+f+f+f+f+f+p+F)

    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 2.03
    PokerStars Game #7152228096: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/24 - 05:44:11 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (965 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1820 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1125 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (2060 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (3175 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (945 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (2395 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1015 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    Hero: posts small blind 100
    1benito1: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qd 6c]
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: raises 790 to 990 and is all-in
    1benito1: calls 740 and is all-in
    *** FLOP *** [Jd Js Ah]
    *** TURN *** [Jd Js Ah] [8h]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd Js Ah 8h] [2h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [Qd 6c] (a pair of Jacks)
    1benito1: shows [Ks As] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
    1benito1 collected 2080 from pot


    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 0.10
    PokerStars Game #7152229894: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/24 - 05:44:39 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (2080 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1795 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1100 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (2035 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (3150 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (920 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (2370 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (50 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    1benito1: posts small blind 100
    SeeMeFleaMe: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ah 3s]
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: raises 400 to 600
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: raises 1745 to 2345 and is all-in
    Hero: calls 25 and is all-in
    1benito1: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    taipan168: folds
    *** FLOP *** [8h 6d 8s]
    *** TURN *** [8h 6d 8s] [3h]
    *** RIVER *** [8h 6d 8s 3h] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    arjun13: shows [Td Ts] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
    arjun13 collected 1400 from side pot
    Hero: shows [Ah 3s] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
    arjun13 collected 325 from main pot

    The Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.


    Thanks!
  2. #2

    Default Re: $16 SNG - HH trimmed - very short ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Hey guys,



    [Ac 8s] CO (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+f+F) steal

    [As Th] MP2 (M=50.00; f+f+f+F) steal

    [Th Ks] BU (M=32.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    [Ts Td] MP2 (M=32.67; r+f+f+F) ????????

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 9.43
    PokerStars Game #7152175016: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/24 - 05:30:08 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1405 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1390 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1260 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1575 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1535 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1695 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1725 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (1415 in chips)
    Hero: posts small blind 50
    1benito1: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [3s Qc]
    elorap: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    Hero: calls 50 raise or fold
    1benito1: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5s 9d 6s]
    Hero: bets 100
    1benito1: folds
    Hero collected 200 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand

    [6s 6c] BU (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) ==>>>>> I think this was my only mistake, I should have raised or push. What do you think? cant say since i dont have the details, post this hand fully

    [8c Qh] CO-1 (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+F) maybe a push, i dont know yout stack size tho

    [As 8c] UTG+1 (M=6.73; f+F) push,again dont know stack size
    [Ts Qd] BU (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) this must be a push
    [Qh Jd] CO-1 (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+F) push
    [As 6c] MP1 (M=5.73; f+f+F) push maybe


    [9h Kh] UTG+1 (M=2.58; f+F) PUSH
    [9c Qs] UTG (M=2.53; F) push
    note that since i dont know stack sizes take the advise with a grain of salt
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  3. #3

    Default Re: $16 SNG - HH trimmed - very short ;-)

    I agree with Goat's comments except for the following (with the benefit of knowing the stack sizes)

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ts Td] MP2 (M=32.67; r+f+f+F) ????????
    This one was me raising 4x BB UTG with AQo, glad I have a bit of respect!

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [6s 6c] BU (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) ==>>>>> I think this was my only mistake, I should have raised or push. What do you think? cant say since i dont have the details, post this hand fully
    I would definitely have raised this. I would have made it 300 to go here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [8c Qh] CO-1 (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+F) maybe a push, i dont know yout stack size tho
    Easy fold this one, -EV at all calling ranges.

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [As 8c] UTG+1 (M=6.73; f+F) push,again dont know stack size
    Again, this one is a very easy fold with 10x BB in UTG+1

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ts Qd] BU (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) this must be a push
    Yes, this one is a push

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Qh Jd] CO-1 (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+F) push
    No, this is a fold IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [As 6c] MP1 (M=5.73; f+f+F) push maybe
    Definite fold, particularly since I was in the BB

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [9h Kh] UTG+1 (M=2.58; f+F) PUSH
    Yes, definite push this one. Not to be results oriented, but I had AKo this hand so I would have pushed over!

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [9c Qs] UTG (M=2.53; F) push
    Normally I wouldn't push this but this table was nitty tight so I think it is good.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 0.10
    PokerStars Game #7152229894: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/11/24 - 05:44:39 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (2080 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1795 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1100 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (2035 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (3150 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (920 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (2370 in chips)
    Seat 9: Hero (50 in chips)
    All Players post the ante 25
    1benito1: posts small blind 100
    SeeMeFleaMe: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ah 3s]
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: raises 400 to 600
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: raises 1745 to 2345 and is all-in
    Hero: calls 25 and is all-in
    1benito1: folds
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    taipan168: folds
    *** FLOP *** [8h 6d 8s]
    *** TURN *** [8h 6d 8s] [3h]
    *** RIVER *** [8h 6d 8s 3h] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    arjun13: shows [Td Ts] (two pair, Tens and Eights)
    arjun13 collected 1400 from side pot
    Hero: shows [Ah 3s] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
    arjun13 collected 325 from main pot
    I had A9o here, so I had one of Jimmy's good outs.
  4. #4
    after tai's reply i wish to add a disclaimer to my replies which include M instead of stack size.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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    Default Re: $16 SNG - HH trimmed - very short ;-)

    Thanks for the comments guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ac 8s] CO (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    [As Th] MP2 (M=50.00; f+f+f+F) steal
    [Th Ks] BU (M=32.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    Actually, my strategy in the beginning of the tourney (i.e. for the 3 first levels) is to not steal. I can imagine that this is a leak for higher buy-in SNGs but is this also a leak for the turbo $16 SNG?
    Note: if I might steal once in a while in 25/50.


    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ts Td] MP2 (M=32.67; r+f+f+F) ????????
    It was actually the first time taipan had raised and I put him on AK/AQ maybe AJ or a high pocket pair. Now, this early in the tourney 15/30 would you call a raise like this from a solid player? My reasoning would be that I would miss the flop 7 times out of 8 and taipan was first so he would c-bet and I would loose 120 chips (i.e. taipan's raise).
    Is this a wrong reasoning?


    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [6s 6c] BU (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) ==>>>>> I think this was my only mistake, I should have raised or push. What do you think? cant say since i dont have the details, post this hand fully
    Here's the hand:
    PokerStars Game #7152177351: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/24 - 05:30:48 (ET)
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1305 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1390 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1260 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1575 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1535 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1695 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1725 in chips)
    Seat 9: jimmy44a (1515 in chips)
    1benito1: posts small blind 50
    elorap: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jimmy44a [6s 6c]
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    jimmy44a: folds

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Da GOAT wrote:
    [Ts Qd] BU (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) this must be a push

    Yes, this one is a push
    You guys are right, I chickened out, which of course is a losing approach. I have to work on that for the $16 SNGs!


    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Da GOAT wrote:
    [9h Kh] UTG+1 (M=2.58; f+F) PUSH

    Yes, definite push this one. Not to be results oriented, but I had AKo this hand so I would have pushed over!
    So you guys push in these position with 5 players still to play after?
  6. #6

    Default Re: $16 SNG - HH trimmed - very short ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Thanks for the comments guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ac 8s] CO (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    [As Th] MP2 (M=50.00; f+f+f+F) steal
    [Th Ks] BU (M=32.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    Actually, my strategy in the beginning of the tourney (i.e. for the 3 first levels) is to not steal. I can imagine that this is a leak for higher buy-in SNGs but is this also a leak for the turbo $16 SNG?
    Note: if I might steal once in a while in 25/50.

    exactly just once in awhile, there all borderline line steals (tho i do steal with KT)so i wont argue. im just highlighting possibilities.


    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ts Td] MP2 (M=32.67; r+f+f+F) ????????
    It was actually the first time taipan had raised and I put him on AK/AQ maybe AJ or a high pocket pair. Now, this early in the tourney 15/30 would you call a raise like this from a solid player? My reasoning would be that I would miss the flop 7 times out of 8 and taipan was first so he would c-bet and I would loose 120 chips (i.e. taipan's raise).
    Is this a wrong reasoning?


    I still call and get his stack if i hit. tai always calls off his stack, major leak


    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [6s 6c] BU (M=10.10; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) ==>>>>> I think this was my only mistake, I should have raised or push. What do you think? cant say since i dont have the details, post this hand fully
    Here's the hand:
    PokerStars Game #7152177351: Tournament #36558093, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/11/24 - 05:30:48 (ET)
    Table '36558093 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: 1benito1 (1305 in chips)
    Seat 2: elorap (1390 in chips)
    Seat 3: SeeMeFleaMe (1260 in chips)
    Seat 4: xRt! (1575 in chips)
    Seat 5: Larapold (1535 in chips)
    Seat 6: taipan168 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Frostvik (1695 in chips)
    Seat 8: arjun13 (1725 in chips)
    Seat 9: jimmy44a (1515 in chips)
    1benito1: posts small blind 50
    elorap: posts big blind 100
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jimmy44a [6s 6c]
    SeeMeFleaMe: folds
    xRt!: folds
    Larapold: folds
    taipan168: folds
    Frostvik: folds
    arjun13: folds
    jimmy44a: folds
    steal

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Da GOAT wrote:
    [Ts Qd] BU (M=5.73; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) this must be a push

    Yes, this one is a push
    You guys are right, I chickened out, which of course is a losing approach. I have to work on that for the $16 SNGs!


    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Da GOAT wrote:
    [9h Kh] UTG+1 (M=2.58; f+F) PUSH

    Yes, definite push this one. Not to be results oriented, but I had AKo this hand so I would have pushed over!
    big time push

    So you guys push in these position with 5 players still to play after?
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  7. #7

    Default Re: $16 SNG - HH trimmed - very short ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ac 8s] CO (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    [As Th] MP2 (M=50.00; f+f+f+F) steal
    [Th Ks] BU (M=32.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+F) steal
    Actually, my strategy in the beginning of the tourney (i.e. for the 3 first levels) is to not steal. I can imagine that this is a leak for higher buy-in SNGs but is this also a leak for the turbo $16 SNG?
    Note: if I might steal once in a while in 25/50.
    exactly just once in awhile, there all borderline line steals (tho i do steal with KT)so i wont argue. im just highlighting possibilities.
    A8o and KTo I definitely would have raised, ATo in MP2 I would have folded.

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    [Ts Td] MP2 (M=32.67; r+f+f+F) ????????
    It was actually the first time taipan had raised and I put him on AK/AQ maybe AJ or a high pocket pair. Now, this early in the tourney 15/30 would you call a raise like this from a solid player? My reasoning would be that I would miss the flop 7 times out of 8 and taipan was first so he would c-bet and I would loose 120 chips (i.e. taipan's raise).
    Is this a wrong reasoning?
    I have been thinking about how I would have played this hand against myself. Jimmy is right to put me on JJ+ (maybe TT) and AQ+ (maybe AJs). AJo and below I would fold from UTG this early. That said, I would have flat called my raise with postflop position and seen a flop. Jimmy is right that I'm betting 80%+ of flops but against a FTR poster I would almost certainly fold if he raised my c-bet.

    A few scenarios - say the blinds fold so the pot is 285 on the flop:
    - Flop comes A72 rainbow, I lead for 180, Jimmy folds.
    - Flop comes Q72 rainbow, I lead for 180, Jimmy raises me to 500, I've got a tough decision as to whether he has a set of 7s. Against a "normal" $16 donk I would push over expecting to see a missed AK or something but against a tight FTR poster this would be tough.
    - Flop comes 942 rainbow, I lead for 180, Jimmy raises me to 500, I'm folding.
    - Flop comes AT2, I lead for 180, Jimmy calls or raises me, I'm in a very tough spot.

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Da GOAT wrote:
    [9h Kh] UTG+1 (M=2.58; f+F) PUSH
    Yes, definite push this one. Not to be results oriented, but I had AKo this hand so I would have pushed over!
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    So you guys push in these position with 5 players still to play after?
    Yes, you're getting very short, this table is playing tight (overall table stats at this point were like 14/7) and K9s is a good hand. That said, I don't blame you for missing the shove, it's just the sort of shove I would miss myself

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