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  1. #1

    Default $100NL, villain is all in.. to call or not to call?

    I'd appreciate some help with some of these villain all-ins here. I wasn't sure to call or fold. Assume no reads if not stated.

    HAND 1:
    -Usually I fold this hand, but table had been playing passive so I limp
    -what to do on turn? pot committed?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    6 players
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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $50
    Hero: $171.30
    CO: $78
    Button: $140.19
    SB: $160.50
    BB: $52.88

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
    UTG calls, Hero calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

    Flop: ($5, 5 players)
    SB bets $4, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero raises to $19, Button folds, SB calls, UTG calls.

    Turn: ($62, 3 players)
    SB checks, UTG is all-in $30, Hero?



    HAND 2:
    -I have a problem when I show strength preflop, get an A high flop, continue to show strength and villain doesn't back down
    -I feel like villain knows I have an ace and is still pushing...then what?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    6 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $108.83
    Hero: $168.50
    CO: $163.38
    Button: $145.25
    SB: $62.25
    BB: $79.50

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with
    UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $12, 4 folds, UTG calls.

    Flop: ($25.5, 2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $16.75, UTG raises all-in $96.83, Hero??



    HAND 3:
    -villain had been playing very LAGG.. so I called flop bet as a float if
    he checked through turn. I hit my straight, but what to do on river?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    5 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $116.75
    CO: $102.25
    Button: $91
    SB: $18.50
    Hero: $193.53

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
    2 folds, Button raises to $3, SB folds, Hero calls.

    Flop: ($6.5, 2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $5, Hero calls.

    Turn: ($16.5, 2 players)
    Hero bets $9.75, Button calls.

    River: ($36, 2 players)
    Hero bets $17.75, Button raises all-in $73.25, Hero??



    HAND 4:
    -another hand where I show strength on A high flop, no obvious draws and villain comes over the top

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    5 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $147.14
    CO: $115.25
    Button: $31
    SB: $172.25
    Hero: $102.75

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $5, CO calls, SB calls.

    Flop: ($15, 3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $10.75, CO raises all-in $110.25, SB folds, Hero??



    HAND 5:
    -should we be worried about villain limping PF, then check raising low
    card flop?
    -After my re-raise I am basically pot committed? Should I re-raise less and fold to a push?
    -is it worth felting queens here?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.50/$1
    6 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $79
    UTG+1: $99
    CO: $82
    Hero: $206.57
    SB: $103.50
    BB: $136

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with
    UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

    Flop: ($11.5, 2 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7.75, UTG+1 raises to $15.5, Hero raises to $56.75, UTG+1 raises all-in $109.5, Hero??
  2. #2

    Default bump?

    BUMP

    Maybe these hands are standard, or uninteresting? lol

    But some help would be greatly appreciated. I feel as though I often caution towards the safe side when it comes to calling someone's all-in over the top bet, since I've seen people play this way with sets (when they know their opponent has an A good kicker)

    Being cautious definitely lets me get away from stacking off against sets/two pairs, but I think i'm losing a lot of value when I'm ahead.

    Would be interested in hearing some thoughts, thanks!
  3. #3
    Hand 1: fold
    Hand 2: i fold but i think a call wouldn't be bad.
    Hand 3: fold preflop! don't call flop, don't bet river, don't call river.

    Hand 4: Call because his play makes no sense at all and it's a very safe board.
    Hand 5: your getting like 3:1, easy call.

    Where the hell are you playing, what's with this uberaggressive play!?
  4. #4

    Default folds?..

    Hand 1: I am probably beat to the flush, but I was wondering if I was pot committed to make this call, given my outs to a boat and the chance he's bluffing? is villain ever bluffing here?

    Hands 2 and 4 confused me the most. Hand 2 I re-raised PF and now he's coming over me on the flop? I often take that as a strong sign of strength on villains behalf.. ?

    Hand 4.. I agree, his play makes no sense. But maybe I'm flawed in thinking that when a play makes no sense.. that I felt I was being trapped by a set of 3's, 9's or two pair A9 into calling an extreme overbet?... I'm really not sure though....

    hence why I need help in these spots! Thanks so far! anyone else?

    Oh and Massimo, I'm playing on interpoker. I started playing when they had a good monthly $100 matched deposit bonus (but now you need to play 200NL to clear it.. and i'm not quite there yet).. and they have rakeback which is good! But yes.. sometimes very aggressive .. which may not be a bad thing, if I find the right spots to make these calls.
  5. #5
    I could go either way on these...I'm leaning toward
    1 - fold
    2 - (w/ no read, usually call pf) ummm fold with no read.
    3 - bet 20-30 on river, you look like a scared Ax. prob fold as played, not sure though.
    4 - absolutely no reads? close one...I guess fold
    5 - no reads again? got to call now. I might call flop, reevaluate turn by card and bet size...
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    Default Re: bump?

    Quote Originally Posted by griffey24
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    There is no need to bump a thread that has only been up for 1 1/2 hours

    What hands are being shown down? You should have an idea of what people at the table consider the nuts, TPTK, set, better?

    Hand 2: your flop bet sucks. Needs to be $20-25. He could do this with a draw since you look week. I don't think you can call.

    In general it looks like you bet too small on the flop. It should generally be 3/4-full pot.
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    Thanks for the replies so far guys!

    Yah, thinking back on the hands I agree that I probably should have bet a few of them stronger.

    I'm surprised at the majority saying Hand 1 is an auto fold, given the size of the bet, the pot, and our outs. Is the fact that villain is all in 30 (no more implied threat) make this call more or less EV? Should we call here if villain has a larger stack behind? (more implied threat, but also more implied odds if we hit our boat) Or is this a fold in any scenario?
  8. #8
    I wouldnt say #1 is an easy fold or anything, it just looks a ton like a flush.

    but calling is ok too. you get info, and if it is -ev it's not by much.
  9. #9
    1) Fold. In a limped pot anything is possible. Flush, Straight, Set, Plus any 2Pair beats you.

    2) Fold. There's no need to get your stack in here. You don't even have TPTK.

    3) Fold. Don't bet the river. Why are you calling the flop? I hope it's not just to draw to a gutshot.

    4) Well he is obviously not drawing. That board is really dry. If I've seen him do this crap often I'd think about calling.

    5) Well I don't like this spot at all, but I guess you have to call here. When you get c/r'd you have to decide right then what you want to do with the hand. You shouldn't re-raise unless you want to get all-in.
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  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Hand 3: fold preflop!

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  11. #11
    Hand 3 is fine. Folding the river would be terrible.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Hand 3 is fine. Folding the river would be terrible.
    wow could you explain?
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  13. #13

    Default thanks!

    Hey guys,

    Thanks for all the help so far!

    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Hand 3 is fine. Folding the river would be terrible.
    wow could you explain?
    Yah I was wondering the same thing, Fnord? I actually ended up folding this river raise, assuming I was beat to the boat or flush. Bad fold?
  14. #14
    I think you way overestimate the likelihood of the villian bluffing given the strentgh you've shown is (almost) all hands.

    Hand 1) Fold: You're substantial reraise represents a slowplayed AA/AK ATd or two pair+. Also, UTG cold called a raise and a big reraise and then pushed when the flush hit. Unless you know UTG is a maniac, I fold knowing I'm beat.

    Hand 2) Fold. You only beat a bluff. It looks like AT/TT to me. Espcially since villian can't have TP and be on a draw (you have the Ah)

    Hand 3) Call. In order for villian to have you beat, he has to to have a flush or a boat. If he has a flush, he hit it on the turn and would have reraised you there. Unless he has KQs, he has to be worried that you have something like KQ/KTs and would push over him on the turn. If he has a boat he'd have to have a set on the turn (and he'd reraise you with AA/KK/JJ) or A4. The only hand that has you beat and makes sense is A4 (where he hit his miracle card and wants to get paid accordingly). His bet looks like it's designed to make you fold which would imply a hand you beat.

    Hand 4: Tough. Very tough. Especially b/c the board is so dry. I wan't to call, but can't imagine a hand I beat doing this. On the other hand, and hand that beats TPTK, would want you to call. I'll say, other than hand 3, it's the closest one to calling, but I'd have to let my time run out and fold. So tough.

    Hand 5: You are beat. Fold. UTG as 2 pair + (likely a set or a straight). He's reraised you twice and you've only shown strentgh.
  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by yorib
    Hand 3) ...If he has a boat he'd have to have a set on the turn (and he'd reraise you with AA/KK/JJ)...
    I could def see a set playing exactly the way villain played it. Hero c/c then donked turn when the flush completed. Villain calls hoping to fill up and then shoves cuz he doesn't think Hero can get away from his "flush."
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    Hand 1: Fold.

    Hand 2: Probably fold, reads would help immensely.

    Hand 3: Fold preflop, I don't like the flop c/c either. At least you lead the turn, and I'd bet bigger on river. Fold looks fine as played if he isn't stupid.

    Hand 4. Tough one, you really need to help us with reads. Totally read dependant, man.

    Hand 5, bleh. Gotta call as played, way too much committed. I'd call flop raise and play the turn.

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