400NL 2 deep hands with a LAG

[Irisheyes]

So me and this guy have been going at it for about an hour now on 4 different tables. He runs 35/25/2.5 and I don't think he's all that good. I've been repopping him loads pf and getting the better of him post flop. I'd be supprised if he didn't have a real yearning to shoot me in the head.

Previous to this I stacked him with QQ for 100bb when he c/r flop, push turn with TT on a low flop in a reraised pot. He's been starting to play back at me post flop a bit, he's check raised my cbets in reraised pots etc.



Hand 1) Can anyone imagine ever stacking off here? Fold flop?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($930.60)
Hero ($842.95)
BB ($434.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q. Hero posts a blind of $2.
Button raises to $12, Hero (poster) raises to $42, 1 fold, Button calls $32.

Flop: ($92) T, 3, K (2 players)
Hero bets $72, Button raises to $188, Hero calls $116.

Turn: ($468) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $277, Hero ???



Hand 2) Whats my plan here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($776.20)
Hero ($849.10)
UTG ($84)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 2. SB posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($12) 4, 4, Q (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, UTG folds, SB raises to $33, Hero ???


Thanks everyone.

[griffey24]

Hand #1 - I've seen this play a lot, with air/A high from villain. They raise PF, and they don't like the flop donk lead into them, so they raise to take control of the hand on the flop.

I think I might find a call here on the turn, given how aggressive villain seems, and how much you two are playing at each other..

Hand #2 - re-raise to $100ish, and fold to a push maybe?... if you think villain could have a 4.. re-raise since any Q or heart probably kills you

[gabe]

hand 1 is really interesting

...thats all ive got for now

[Miffed22001]

hand 1 is really interesting

...thats all ive got for now

1 doesnt make much sense unless he has a real hand (AK/set/KT) or maybe QJ at a push. But if hes playing a big pot when he must probably put you on a K or a hand that liked the flop hes playing dangerous no?

Call on flop in 2 and c/r all in on non heart turn and probably show down if a heart shows up anyway?

[Irisheyes]

Call on flop in 2 and c/r all in on non heart turn and probably show down if a heart shows up anyway?

we're 200bb deep.

[Irisheyes]

hand 1 is really interesting

...thats all ive got for now

please elaborate...

[Miffed22001]

Call on flop in 2 and c/r all in on non heart turn and probably show down if a heart shows up anyway?

we're 200bb deep.

just dont make it all in then
I think he has a queen here a lot and maybe a heart draw a fair share of the time. I guess he has a four sometimes too in which case i think we get value for a raise on the turn but can dump it versus opp showing strength back.

[lolzzz_321]

Hand 2, call and lead non <3 turn

Hand 1

[nutsinho]

we are beat too often i hand 1, he has to give you credit for a good hand

[griffey24]

Call on flop in 2 and c/r all in on non heart turn and probably show down if a heart shows up anyway?

Hand 2, call and lead non <3 turn

I'm just curious as to why most people are suggesting a flat call on the flop of hand 2? Does re-raising give away our hand too much?

I'd just like to hear the benefits of flat calling, and leading/CR'ing turn, as opposed to re-raising flop. Because I definitely find myself re-raising here often.

[lolzzz_321]

We are trying to extract value from Qx and a flushdraw.

[Miffed22001]

Call on flop in 2 and c/r all in on non heart turn and probably show down if a heart shows up anyway?

Hand 2, call and lead non <3 turn

I'm just curious as to why most people are suggesting a flat call on the flop of hand 2? Does re-raising give away our hand too much?

I'd just like to hear the benefits of flat calling, and leading/CR'ing turn, as opposed to re-raising flop. Because I definitely find myself re-raising here often.

bet raise 3bet = a four or boat on that board and a queen gets away easily. Bet/raise/call check turn looks like a flush draw line but could also be a c/r turn line meaning our opp puts lots more in behind.

[gabe]

we are beat too often i hand 1, he has to give you credit for a good hand

yea thats what i think, but there must be a better way to find out while getting value from worse hands.

[Miffed22001]

we are beat too often i hand 1, he has to give you credit for a good hand

yea thats what i think, but there must be a better way to find out while getting value from worse hands.

is a c/c flop and lead turn too transparent/explotable in that situation. Is a c/r folding to a 3bet a better play. FWIW, i dont like this situation and tend to fold anything less than tptk which i probably stack off with against the right opponent.

[Genitruc]

hand 1 is tough in a vaccum

hand 2 I like check-raising a non-heart turn

[gabe]

is a c/c flop and lead turn too transparent/explotable in that situation. Is a c/r folding to a 3bet a better play. F.

i think both of those are good. theres really alot of ways to play this that arent bad