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    Default Renton (Fnord and Trip) vs Rondavu

    I just sat a few hands ago.

    Notes on rondavu: Loose player, but not really a lagg. More like a tagg who limps a lot of stuff. I actually have a greater preflop raising range than him. He plays draws pretty aggressively and generally plays tag-like whenever its the turn or the river.


    PokerStars Game #7355489198: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/08 - 16:45:30 (ET)
    Table 'Owa' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 2: prostowin ($208.95 in chips)
    Seat 3: DoubleJJ770 ($200.95 in chips)
    Seat 4: cjoli95 ($57.10 in chips)
    Seat 5: Rondavu ($161.90 in chips)
    Seat 6: Renton555 ($99.50 in chips)
    Rondavu: posts small blind $0.50
    Renton555: posts big blind $1

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Renton555 [9c Qs]

    prostowin: folds
    DoubleJJ770: folds
    cjoli95: folds
    Rondavu: calls $0.50
    Renton555: raises $3 to $4
    Rondavu: calls $3

    *** FLOP *** [5s Js 6h]

    Rondavu: checks
    Renton555: bets $5
    jonnypppp joins the table at seat #1
    Rondavu: calls $5

    *** TURN *** [5s Js 6h] [Ts]

    Rondavu: checks
    Renton555: bets $12
    Rondavu: calls $12

    *** RIVER *** [5s Js 6h Ts] [6c]

    Rondavu: bets $12
    Renton555: raises $36 to $48
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    I think you're smoked bro. What are you trying to rep with your hand? Looks like a flush draw or overpair on the flop.

    He's obviously not trying to steal the pot with that weak $12 bet on the river, I think he's just throwing a bet bet out there that you'd have to call with even a weak pair on that board. I think you were called with either the nut flush or a full house.


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    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    It seems like a weak hand like a Jx Block betting but being an FTR guy i'm afraid he's 3rd leveling you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    It seems like a weak hand like a Jx Block betting but being an FTR guy i'm afraid he's 3rd leveling you.
    I don't think $12 into a $40+ pot counts as a blocking bet. Especially against someone who has been as aggressive the entire hand as Renton has.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    It looks like a bet meant to induce a raise/bluff. I wouldn't be surprised if Rond reraised here.
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    i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
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    also its virtually impossible to put him on a flush, so the rep value there is apparent
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    you seem to rep the nut flush. maybe a set/boat. the turn and river bet sizes seem a little weird to me though (why not more on turn and push river?).

    anyways the $12 river bet looks suspicious. maybe rondavu has As6x, or 65, and wants you to raise. I just wouldn't expect a transparently weak bet from him without something more to it than planning to fold to a raise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    also its virtually impossible to put him on a flush, so the rep value there is apparent
    c/c, c/c? It's passive but it's not unheard of. Rondavu just might take that line with a flush against you.
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    ive been bluff-raising rivers with pretty high frequency lately but I wouldnt here because frankly, it would look like a bluff
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    side note:rondavu would not get in any pots with me when we played ::(((
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triptan3s
    side note:rondavu would not get in any pots with me when we played ::(((
    We're mixing it up right now.
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    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Fnord ($153.10)
    CO ($220.35)
    Button ($121.25)
    SB ($103.15)
    BB ($117.80)
    UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($141.70)

    Preflop: Fnord is MP with Q, A.
    UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, Fnord calls $4, 4 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) 9, A, A (2 players)
    Rondavu bets $6, Fnord raises to $18, Rondavu raises to $38, Fnord raises to $149.1, Rondavu calls $99.70 (All-In).

    Turn: ($296.30) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($296.30) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $296.30

    Results in white below:
    Rondavu has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
    Fnord has Qd Ac (three of a kind, aces).
    Outcome: Rondavu wins $284.90. Fnord wins $11.40.
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    PokerStars Game #7357886097: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/08 - 19:43:04 (ET)
    Table 'Antielus IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: lancer2k2 ($132.75 in chips)
    Seat 2: Triptanes ($100 in chips)
    Seat 3: Fnord ($100 in chips)
    Seat 4: Rondavu ($167.75 in chips)
    Seat 5: SOSHHSB ($171.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: drewlo12 ($199.25 in chips)
    drewlo12: posts small blind $0.50
    Rondavu said, "nic fold"
    lancer2k2: posts big blind $1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Triptanes [Th Qd]
    Triptanes: raises $3.40 to $4.40
    HenryFnord: folds
    Rondavu said, "555?"
    Rondavu: calls $4.40
    SOSHHSB: folds
    drewlo12: folds
    lancer2k2: raises $7.60 to $12
    Triptanes: calls $7.60
    Rondavu: calls $7.60
    *** FLOP *** [9c Ks Tc]
    lancer2k2: bets $23
    Triptanes: raises $23 to $46
    Rondavu: folds
    Rondavu said, "cards are live"
    lancer2k2: raises $74.75 to $120.75 and is all-in
    Triptanes: calls $42 and is all-in
    *** TURN *** [9c Ks Tc] [Jc]
    *** RIVER *** [9c Ks Tc Jc] [Kh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    lancer2k2: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    Triptanes: shows [Th Qd] (a straight, Nine to King)
    Triptanes collected $209.50 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $212.50 | Rake $3
    Board [9c Ks Tc Jc Kh]
    Seat 1: lancer2k2 (big blind) showed [Ah Ad] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
    Seat 2: Triptanes showed [Th Qd] and won ($209.50) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 3: HenryFnord folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Rondavu folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: SOSHHSB (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: drewlo12 (small blind) folded before Flop

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    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($107.45)
    SB ($77.55)
    BB ($81.15)
    UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($108.10)
    MP ($84.15)
    Fnord ($107.55)

    Preflop: Fnord is CO with 8, 6.
    UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, 1 fold, Fnord calls $4, 3 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) 7, 9, 5 (2 players)
    Rondavu bets $7, Fnord raises to $21, Rondavu raises to $104.1, Fnord calls $82.55 (All-In).

    Turn: ($217.15) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($217.15) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $217.15

    Results in white below:
    Rondavu has Ac Kc (one pair, kings).
    Fnord has 8s 6s (straight, nine high).
    Outcome: Fnord wins $216.60. Rondavu wins $0.54.
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    fnord hit and ran me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triptan3s
    fnord hit and ran me
    Dinner time, shutting down all my tables. Have fun boys.

    Rondavu switches gears well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
    Either he was playing you differently or your reads are way off.
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    I found Rondavu to be fairly tough although with 700 hands against we've never battled post flop HU he is one of the few Tag type players at 100nl that is a winning player in my database.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    i think its important to note that rondavu calls the flop and the turn VERY lightly.
    Either he was playing you differently or your reads are way off.
    its blindvblind, light calling is std
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jager
    we've never battled post flop HU.
    You're missing out on a lot of fun
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    Man I would have loved to watch this table. Stupid southern hemisphere time zone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Fnord ($153.10)
    CO ($220.35)
    Button ($121.25)
    SB ($103.15)
    BB ($117.80)
    UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ ($141.70)

    Preflop: Fnord is MP with Q, A.
    UTG =#A500AF(Rondavu)/ raises to $4, Fnord calls $4, 4 folds.

    Flop: ($9.50) 9, A, A (2 players)
    Rondavu bets $6, Fnord raises to $18, Rondavu raises to $38, Fnord raises to $149.1, Rondavu calls $99.70 (All-In).

    Turn: ($296.30) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($296.30) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $296.30

    Results in white below:
    Rondavu has 9c 9s (full house, nines full of aces).
    Fnord has Qd Ac (three of a kind, aces).
    Outcome: Rondavu wins $284.90. Fnord wins $11.40.
    lol.
    Qwned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    lol.
    Qwned?
    Given what you know about both players, I don't think it's that terrible of a spot to get stacked. Against a lot of players, I like calling the flop 3-bet. Against Rondavu I think shoving is a better play.

    Anyway, I more than made-up the difference in winning just about every smaller pot we got into. I think that aggression got him to fight back so hard with AK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    lol.
    Qwned?
    Given what you know about both players, I don't think it's that terrible of a spot to get stacked. Against a lot of players, I like calling the flop 3-bet. Against Rondavu I think shoving is a better play.

    Anyway, I more than made-up the difference in winning just about every smaller pot we got into. I think that aggression got him to fight back so hard with AK.
    tottaly agreed. I dont quite think i expected to see 99 here, more like some sort of ace, probably weaker.
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    lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triptan3s
    lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years
    You certainly didn't start last evening. LoL!

    check/call
    check/call
    check/call

    Makes it a real bitch to get your stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triptan3s
    lol i haven't folded top pair to an FTRer in 3 years
    lolz

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