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  1. #1

    Default Was that a weak play?

    Was that a weak play of my AQ?
    Should I call re-raise at preflop?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 (t3025)
    MP2 (t1445)
    CO (t1470)
    Button (t2170)
    Hero (t1420)
    BB (t1385)
    UTG (t1090)
    UTG+1 (t1495)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A.
    3 folds, MP2 raises to t150, 2 folds, Hero calls t125, BB calls t100.

    Flop: (t450) 9, 8, A (3 players)
    Hero bets t100, BB folds, MP2 raises to t250, Hero calls t150.

    Turn: (t950) T (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets t1045 (All-In), Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t1995
  2. #2
    Reads on MP1?

    I wouldn't have lead the flop. MP1 raised pre so you can expect him to bet out again. Many of his raising hands have you beat right now and the last thing you want is him reraising you so that the pot spirals out of control.

    Check/call and re-evalutae turn to keep the pot small.
    As played I think its a fold.
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  3. #3
    What buyin is this? This can make a big difference. I'm going to assume this is a low buyin, if not, I retract my advice!

    Fold preflop to the raise, I don't want to be playing a hand like AQ OOP.

    As played, with two opps seeing the flop, bet more - 350 to go - and if you are raised then push all-in. If you're going to play AQ then you can't fold when the A comes on the flop! At low buyins donks will raise you with A-anything so you're likely to have the best hand here. Even as played I would push over the flop raise.

    As played, on the turn I would shove. Why do you think you don't have the best hand here?
  4. #4
    The number of times I see AK played this way means its a turn fold for me. That may be too tight but i usually see AArag limped not raised at low buyins.
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  5. #5
    It's a 16$ SnG at PokerStars.
    Is it a low buy-in?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by flexor
    It's a 16$ SnG at PokerStars.
    Is it a low buy-in?
    Low for some, not for others! I would definitely fold AQo preflop from the SB at a $16 though.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    I would definitely fold AQo preflop from the SB at a $16 though.
    Why would you do that?
    The blinds are getting higher.
    What hands to play then? Only AA and KK?

    AQ is not a bad hand, even off-suited, is it?
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    I think Tai means given the action he'd fold. I think he's open raising this all day long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gingerwizard
    I think Tai means given the action he'd fold. I think he's open raising this all day long.
    Yup! AQo is a good hand to open raise not to call a 150 raise pre-flop at blinds 25/50.
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    this is an obvious leak in my game because i always call this. i think in position the call is fine but OOP it should be dumped.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by flexor
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    I would definitely fold AQo preflop from the SB at a $16 though.
    Why would you do that?
    The blinds are getting higher.
    What hands to play then? Only AA and KK?

    AQ is not a bad hand, even off-suited, is it?
    Ginger and Jimmy hit the nail on the head, I would open raise all day long with AQo, maybe even if I was in position (CO or button) raise over one or more limpers, but I don't want to be calling raises with it, particularly when I will be OOP for the rest of the hand.

    The problem is, if the flop comes A high as here, how do you know you are good? How do you know whether the MP raiser has AK versus AJ and below? If the flop comes Q high, how do you know whether opp was raising with KQ (which you crush) or KK-AA (which crush you), or something else?

    From the button I might have called this raise but not from the SB/BB.
  12. #12
    open/fold AQ UTG, plus UTG+1 depending on table. its not correct to always open raise AQ early on. you will be OOP most of the time if you do.

    in blinds its a fold, in a vacuum tho
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    open/fold AQ UTG, plus UTG+1 depending on table. its not correct to always open raise AQ early on. you will be OOP most of the time if you do.

    in blinds its a fold, in a vacuum tho
    Maybe it's a leak of mine, but I always open raise AQo from UTG and UTG+1 unless it's a super aggressive table (which the $6.50s and $16s tend not to be). AJ is instamuck from these positions though.
  14. #14
    I play the $16's exclusively on Stars and based on the players over the last few months I would say that this should be a read dependent call. At this level in the tourney you should have a pretty decent idea regarding villian and how loose they are. If they have a VP$IP of over 35 I am calling the pre-flop bet and check/pushing when the A hits on the flop.

    On the other hand if he is a tight player I am folding this pre-flop as I don't like playing AQo OOP against a tight or solid player.
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