Time to beat up the Gator

[GatorJH]

It has been a while since I posted a full HH and this particular tourney there were quite a few hands where I was thinking "should I push this one?" or "should I call that?". Personally I think I played horribly in this one. I just glanced over this and there are several hands that I wonder, in retrospect, why I didn't push with.

Thanks for the review guys (and Courtie)(and any other ladies out there).

The Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) was developed by JeffreyGB at http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com.

---Statistics---
Data for 74 hands.
You played 13 hands (17.57%).
You raised 9 times preflop (12.16%).



[3c As] SB (M=50.00; f+f+f+f+r+f+f+F)
[Jh 4h] BU (M=49.67; f+f+f+f+f+f+F)
[7c 3s] CO (M=49.67; f+f+r+f+f+F)
[9s 2h] CO-1 (M=49.67; f+f+f+c+F)
[Ts 9d] MP2 (M=49.67; r+f+f+F)
[5h 2c] MP1 (M=49.67; r+f+F)
[4s 2h] UTG+1 (M=49.67; f+F)
[Kc 5d] UTG (M=49.67; F)
[3c 3s] BB (M=33.11; f+f+f+f+f+f+r+f+F)
[9h Td] SB (M=32.44; f+f+f+f+f+r+c+F)

-----Hand 1-----
Hero's M = 32.11
PokerStars Game #7425956407: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/12/13 - 13:58:25 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1540 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1445 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1380 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3270 in chips)
Seat 8: ZENFUL (200 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1255 in chips)
NutPopper: posts small blind 15
geirmn: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Tc Jd]
Alen.M: folds
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
ZENFUL: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: calls 30
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Td Jh]
geirmn: checks
Hero: checks
*** TURN *** [6c Td Jh] [8s]
geirmn: checks
Hero: bets 60
geirmn: folds
Hero collected 75 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[3h 2h] CO (M=33.11; f+f+f+f+c+F)
[9c Ad] CO-1 (M=33.11; f+f+f+f+F)
[8d 2d] MP2 (M=33.11; f+f+c+F)
[Jh 6s] MP1 (M=33.11; f+f+F)
[3d 7s] UTG+1 (M=19.87; f+F)
[7h Kc] BB (M=19.87; f+f+f+f+c+r+c+F)
[Ts 4s] SB (M=19.20; r+f+f+f+f+f+F)
[5d 9c] BU (M=18.87; f+f+c+f+f+F)

-----Hand 2-----
Hero's M = 18.87
PokerStars Game #7426026278: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/12/13 - 14:05:07 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1415 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1290 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1435 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1545 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3145 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1225 in chips)
geirmn: posts small blind 25
Alen.M: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [9d Tc]
overmyer10: folds
davcour: calls 50
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 150 to 200
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: folds
Alen.M: folds
davcour: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [3h 6c 4c]
davcour: checks
Hero: bets 250
davcour: folds
Hero collected 475 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[9c 2d] MP2 (M=22.53; f+f+f+F)
[6s Th] MP1 (M=22.53; f+f+F)
[6c 3c] UTG+1 (M=11.27; c+F)

-----Hand 3-----
Hero's M = 11.27
PokerStars Game #7426054290: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/12/13 - 14:07:47 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2125 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1690 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1240 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1435 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1395 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3020 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1125 in chips)
Akaperion: posts small blind 50
morris644: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Th Ts]
Hero: raises 200 to 300
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: folds
Alen.M: folds
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[Kd Kc] BB (Folded to Hero.)
[5h 3d] SB (M=12.60; f+c+f+f+p+f+F)
[Ks 9h] BU (M=12.27; c+f+f+f+f+F)

-----Hand 4-----
Hero's M = 12.27
PokerStars Game #7426075191: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/12/13 - 14:09:46 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1840 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1090 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1335 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1520 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1395 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3020 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1325 in chips)
geirmn: posts small blind 50
Alen.M: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qc]
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 200 to 300
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: raises 1035 to 1335 and is all-in
Alen.M: calls 1235
Hero: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 8c Ac]
*** TURN *** [3d 8c Ac] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [3d 8c Ac Kd] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
geirmn: shows [6d Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Alen.M: shows [Qd Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
Alen.M collected 2970 from pot

[8s 5h] MP1 (M=10.27; r+f+F)
[3c Ks] UTG+1 (M=10.27; f+F)
[3d 6c] UTG (M=10.27; F)
[8c 6s] BB (Folded to Hero.)

-----Hand 5-----
Hero's M = 7.07
PokerStars Game #7426100739: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/13 - 14:12:13 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1590 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1090 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (3305 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1345 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2870 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1325 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
NutPopper: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh 3h]
Alen.M: folds
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 300 to 450
NutPopper: raises 640 to 1090 and is all-in
Hero: calls 640
*** FLOP *** [9c 9h 2d]
*** TURN *** [9c 9h 2d] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [9c 9h 2d 7s] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Kh 3h] (a pair of Nines)
NutPopper: shows [Qh Jh] (a pair of Nines - lower kicker)
Hero collected 2180 from pot

[Tc Qd] BU (M=11.91; f+f+r+F)
[Jd 6h] CO (M=11.91; p+f+F)
[Ah 6c] MP1 (M=11.91; f+F)
[2s Qh] UTG (M=11.91; F)

-----Hand 6-----
Hero's M = 11.91
PokerStars Game #7426121347: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/13 - 14:14:10 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2050 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2680 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (3230 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2645 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (2895 in chips)
morris644: posts small blind 75
Hero: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7d Kc]
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: raises 300 to 450
morris644: folds
Hero: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [5h Qs Ad]
Hero: checks
Akaperion: bets 600
Hero: folds
Akaperion collected 975 from pot
Akaperion: doesn't show hand

[8c 4d] SB (M=9.91; f+r+p+F)
[Kh 3h] BU (M=9.58; r+f+F)
[4d 5s] CO (M=9.58; f+F)
[2d 6s] UTG (M=9.58; F)
[Jd Tc] BB (Folded to Hero.)

-----Hand 7-----
Hero's M = 9.91
PokerStars Game #7426144544: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/13 - 14:16:20 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2725 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2230 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (2555 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2420 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3570 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
Alen.M: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh Jd]
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 300 to 450
Alen.M: folds
Hero collected 300 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[4c 9c] BU (M=10.58; f+f+F)
[Tc Qd] CO (M=7.93; f+F)

-----Hand 8-----
Hero's M = 7.93
PokerStars Game #7426152950: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:17:18 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2725 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2380 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (2630 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2395 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3370 in chips)
Akaperion: posts small blind 100
morris644: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah Kh]
Hero: raises 400 to 600
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [3c Ks 6s]
morris644: checks
Hero: bets 1780 and is all-in
morris644: folds
Hero collected 1300 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[8s Ac] BB (M=10.27; r+f+f+f+F)
[Qh 3c] SB (M=9.60; f+f+f+F)
[9c Jc] BU (M=9.27; f+r+F)
[Kc 6c] CO (M=9.27; f+F)
[Js 4s] UTG (M=9.27; F)

-----Hand 9-----
Hero's M = 9.27
PokerStars Game #7426177605: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:20:04 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2125 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2780 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6060 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2095 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (440 in chips)
morris644: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6s Qh]
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: raises 240 to 440 and is all-in
morris644: folds
Hero: calls 240
*** FLOP *** [4h Jh 3c]
*** TURN *** [4h Jh 3c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [4h Jh 3c Td] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [6s Qh] (high card Queen)
Akaperion: shows [Ks 5s] (a pair of Fives)
Akaperion collected 980 from pot

[8d Tc] SB (M=7.80; f+p+f+F)
[9c 3d] BU (M=7.47; f+f+F)
[As 7s] CO (M=7.47; r+F)
[Kc 8h] UTG (M=7.47; F)
[3h 3d] BB (M=5.27; r+f+f+f+F)
[Kh 6d] SB (M=4.74; f+r+f+F)
[Jh 6s] BU (M=4.45; f+f+F)
[9s 7s] CO (M=4.39; p+F)
[4h 5d] BB (M=4.60; f+f+r+F)
[4h Td] SB (M=4.04; f+f+F)

-----Hand 10-----
Hero's M = 3.73
PokerStars Game #7426222752: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:24:26 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1490 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (5535 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2370 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (4105 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
Alen.M: posts small blind 100
davcour: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs 8s]
Akaperion: folds
Hero: raises 1265 to 1465 and is all-in
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Hero collected 600 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[2s Ah] UTG (M=4.66; F)
[Jh 4d] BB (M=4.60; r+f+f+F)
[6c Qs] SB (M=4.04; f+r+F)
[2d 4h] BU (M=3.73; f+F)

-----Hand 11-----
Hero's M = 3.66
PokerStars Game #7426238740: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:25:58 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1465 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6210 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (1745 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (4080 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
davcour: posts small blind 100
Akaperion: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kd Ac]
Hero: raises 1240 to 1440 and is all-in
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
Hero collected 600 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand


-----Hand 12-----
Hero's M = 2.63
PokerStars Game #7426250340: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/13 - 14:27:05 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1840 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6185 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (1620 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3855 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
Akaperion: posts small blind 200
Hero: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Td Qd]
Alen.M: folds
davcour: raises 1195 to 1595 and is all-in
Akaperion: folds
Hero: calls 1195
*** FLOP *** [7h Qs 5h]
*** TURN *** [7h Qs 5h] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Qs 5h Jd] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Td Qd] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
davcour: shows [Qh As] (two pair, Queens and Fives - Ace kicker)
davcour collected 3490 from pot

[Kd 5d] BB (Folded to Hero.)
[5s Ts] BU (M=0.98; f+F)
[Kh 2d] UTG (M=0.94; F)

-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 0.91
PokerStars Game #7426272705: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/13 - 14:29:13 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (635 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6185 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3515 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3165 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
Akaperion: posts small blind 200
Hero: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4h 8d]
Alen.M: calls 400
davcour: folds
Akaperion: calls 200
Hero: raises 210 to 610 and is all-in
Alen.M: calls 210
Akaperion: calls 210
*** FLOP *** [Qs Jc 5d]
Akaperion: checks
Alen.M: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs Jc 5d] [9d]
Akaperion: checks
Alen.M: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs Jc 5d 9d] [9c]
Akaperion: checks
Alen.M: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Akaperion: shows [Qd 2s] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Hero: mucks hand
Alen.M: mucks hand
Akaperion collected 1930 from pot

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[star5328]

well...i've never really done any analysis..i just play the things, my only problem with this is hand 5...if you feel the need to get involved with K3s, just push, if not then fold. I dont believe he is making all that great a decision with QJo, maybe he'll call your push, not sure.

[Da GOAT]

okay time to be serious and leave the messing in other threads

-----Hand 1-----
Hero's M = 32.11
PokerStars Game #7425956407: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/12/13 - 13:58:25 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1540 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1445 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1380 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3270 in chips)
Seat 8: ZENFUL (200 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1255 in chips)
NutPopper: posts small blind 15
geirmn: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Tc Jd]
Alen.M: folds
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
ZENFUL: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: calls 30 whats the story here, bet or fold
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: checks
*** FLOP *** [6c Td Jh]
geirmn: checks
Hero: checks
*** TURN *** [6c Td Jh] [8s]
geirmn: checks
Hero: bets 60
geirmn: folds
Hero collected 75 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[9c Ad] CO-1 (M=33.11; f+f+f+f+F) stealing here would be loose but acceptable

-----Hand 2-----
Hero's M = 18.87
PokerStars Game #7426026278: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/12/13 - 14:05:07 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1415 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1290 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1435 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1545 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1470 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3145 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1225 in chips)
geirmn: posts small blind 25
Alen.M: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [9d Tc]
overmyer10: folds
davcour: calls 50
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 150 to 200 any reads so far, table must be tight! plus limper very weak
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: folds
Alen.M: folds
davcour: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [3h 6c 4c]
davcour: checks
Hero: bets 250
davcour: folds
Hero collected 475 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

-----Hand 3-----
Hero's M = 11.27
PokerStars Game #7426054290: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/12/13 - 14:07:47 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2125 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1690 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1240 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1435 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1395 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3020 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1125 in chips)
Akaperion: posts small blind 50
morris644: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Th Ts]
Hero: raises 200 to 300
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: folds
Alen.M: folds
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero collected 250 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

[Kd Kc] BB (Folded to Hero.) nicely played


-----Hand 4-----
Hero's M = 12.27
PokerStars Game #7426075191: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2006/12/13 - 14:09:46 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1840 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1090 in chips)
Seat 4: geirmn (1335 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (1520 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1395 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3020 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1325 in chips)
geirmn: posts small blind 50
Alen.M: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs Qc]
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 200 to 300
NutPopper: folds
geirmn: raises 1035 to 1335 and is all-in
Alen.M: calls 1235 ah balls, BTW he just calls it!!!
Hero: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 8c Ac]
*** TURN *** [3d 8c Ac] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [3d 8c Ac Kd] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
geirmn: shows [6d Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Alen.M: shows [Qd Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
Alen.M collected 2970 from pot


-----Hand 5-----
Hero's M = 7.07
PokerStars Game #7426100739: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/13 - 14:12:13 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (1975 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1590 in chips)
Seat 3: NutPopper (1090 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (3305 in chips)
Seat 6: overmyer10 (1345 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2870 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (1325 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
NutPopper: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh 3h]
Alen.M: folds
overmyer10: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 300 to 450
NutPopper: raises 640 to 1090 and is all-in
Hero: calls 640 i see why your calling but why not just push first
*** FLOP *** [9c 9h 2d]
*** TURN *** [9c 9h 2d] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [9c 9h 2d 7s] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Kh 3h] (a pair of Nines)
NutPopper: shows [Qh Jh] (a pair of Nines - lower kicker)
Hero collected 2180 from pot

-----Hand 6-----
Hero's M = 11.91
PokerStars Game #7426121347: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/13 - 14:14:10 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2050 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2680 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (3230 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2645 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (2895 in chips)
morris644: posts small blind 75
Hero: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [7d Kc]
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: raises 300 to 450
morris644: folds
Hero: calls 300 no chance of me doing this even if he is very loose PFR
*** FLOP *** [5h Qs Ad]
Hero: checks
Akaperion: bets 600
Hero: folds
Akaperion collected 975 from pot
Akaperion: doesn't show hand

-----Hand 7-----
Hero's M = 9.91
PokerStars Game #7426144544: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/12/13 - 14:16:20 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2725 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2230 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (2555 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2420 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3570 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 75
Alen.M: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kh Jd]
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: folds
Hero: raises 300 to 450
Alen.M: folds
Hero collected 300 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand


-----Hand 8-----
Hero's M = 7.93
PokerStars Game #7426152950: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:17:18 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2725 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2380 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (2630 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2395 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3370 in chips)
Akaperion: posts small blind 100
morris644: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ah Kh]
Hero: raises 400 to 600 if ive been pushing ill shove
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
morris644: calls 400
*** FLOP *** [3c Ks 6s]
morris644: checks
Hero: bets 1780 and is all-in
morris644: folds
Hero collected 1300 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

-----Hand 9-----
Hero's M = 9.27
PokerStars Game #7426177605: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:20:04 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: morris644 (2125 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (2780 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6060 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2095 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (440 in chips)
morris644: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [6s Qh]
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: raises 240 to 440 and is all-in
morris644: folds
Hero: calls 240
*** FLOP *** [4h Jh 3c]
*** TURN *** [4h Jh 3c] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [4h Jh 3c Td] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [6s Qh] (high card Queen)
Akaperion: shows [Ks 5s] (a pair of Fives)
Akaperion collected 980 from pot



-----Hand 10-----
Hero's M = 3.73
PokerStars Game #7426222752: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:24:26 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1490 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (5535 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (2370 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (4105 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
Alen.M: posts small blind 100
davcour: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Qs 8s]
Akaperion: folds
Hero: raises 1265 to 1465 and is all-in
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Hero collected 600 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand

-----Hand 11-----
Hero's M = 3.66
PokerStars Game #7426238740: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2006/12/13 - 14:25:58 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1465 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6210 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (1745 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (4080 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
davcour: posts small blind 100
Akaperion: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Kd Ac]
Hero: raises 1240 to 1440 and is all-in
Alen.M: folds
davcour: folds
Akaperion: folds
Hero collected 600 from pot
Hero: doesn't show hand


-----Hand 12-----
Hero's M = 2.63
PokerStars Game #7426250340: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/13 - 14:27:05 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v0.7.6) from FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (1840 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6185 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (1620 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3855 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
Akaperion: posts small blind 200
Hero: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Td Qd]
Alen.M: folds
davcour: raises 1195 to 1595 and is all-in
Akaperion: folds
Hero: calls 1195 i dont in a vacuum, but even against loose PFRer i fold. is the table tough to find push spots. are we unsure that we get a chance of pushing our SB.
*** FLOP *** [7h Qs 5h]
*** TURN *** [7h Qs 5h] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [7h Qs 5h Jd] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hero: shows [Td Qd] (two pair, Queens and Fives)
davcour: shows [Qh As] (two pair, Queens and Fives - Ace kicker)
davcour collected 3490 from pot


-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 0.91
PokerStars Game #7426272705: Tournament #37984627, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2006/12/13 - 14:29:13 (ET)
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Table '37984627 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: Hero (635 in chips)
Seat 5: Alen.M (6185 in chips)
Seat 7: davcour (3515 in chips)
Seat 9: Akaperion (3165 in chips)
All Players post the ante 25
Akaperion: posts small blind 200
Hero: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [4h 8d]
Alen.M: calls 400
davcour: folds
Akaperion: calls 200
Hero: raises 210 to 610 and is all-in
Alen.M: calls 210
Akaperion: calls 210
*** FLOP *** [Qs Jc 5d]
Akaperion: checks
Alen.M: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs Jc 5d] [9d]
Akaperion: checks
Alen.M: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs Jc 5d 9d] [9c]
Akaperion: checks
Alen.M: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Akaperion: shows [Qd 2s] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Hero: mucks hand
Alen.M: mucks hand
Akaperion collected 1930 from pot

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i dont like some plays here chief!!! anything i didnt comment on is fine.

[givememyleg]

Hand 2 - I fold pf.
Hand 4 - I don't think I ever fold here.
Hand 5 - Just go ai pf.
Hand 6 - Fold pf and it's not even close.
Hand 12 - Tough spot. You're never ahead of his range here, but with 1/4 of your stack in it almost compells you to call. I think a fold may be better here.

[taipan168]

OK, I haven't looked at Goat's comments. Sorry to be harsh, but I do think there were some bad plays here.

1. JTo - raise or fold preflop. I tend to just fold this. As played, I would bet the flop rather than checking.

2. T9o - I fold this from the CO. If I was on the button or in the SB I would have raised it. Also, make it 150 to go, 150 folds out every hand that 200 does.

4. QQ - bad fold IMO. Absolutely no way I am folding QQ here. You're getting like 3:1 on the call, and at a $16 you can't automatically assume that one or both of them have KK+.

5. K3s - easy shove preflop. As played, absolutely you have to call.

6. K7o - ugly. Easy fold preflop, even if opp has been LAggy. Why go to war with such a marginal hand?

[Tc Qd] CO (M=7.93; f+F) - if you were a bit deeper I would have raised this to steal, but stack size is awkward, I think folding is good here.

8. AKs - with 12x BB I just open shove this from UTG. You're in a tight spot if you miss the flop and opp leads.

[Jh 6s] BU (M=4.45; f+f+F) - need to see the other stack sizes but this could be a shove

12. QTs - read dependent on how wide you think he is shoving here. If he has any idea what he's doing he should be shoving very wide indeed with the big stack out of the way BUT not all players realise this. That said, this is a +EV call if he shoves more than 19% - therefore without a very solid read that button is super nitty I think it is a good call. Unlucky that he had a real hand here.

[5s Ts] BU (M=0.98; f+F) - I would just shove this, this hand has good suck out value and you're pretty much dead anyway.

[GatorJH]

Thanks for the input guys. I guess it is now time for a little explaining on some of these calls so we can discuss how to deal with those decisions in the future.

Hand 1 - Nothing to say as Da Goat is right here; either raise of fold and barring a read I think this is a raise.

Hand 2 - Yes, the table had been tight and the original limper, plus both blinds were weak/tight. Still a fold?

[Kd Kc] BB (Folded to Hero.) nicely played

Best hand I played this tourney

hand 4 - WOW!!! I didn't realize how weak this was until I put it into Pokerstove. If you agree with the ranges below this could easily be the worst hand I played (even though I would have lost it).


equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 48.8421 % 48.15% 00.69% { QcQs }
Hand 2: 23.4009 % 22.46% 00.94% { 77+, A7s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+, QJo }
Hand 3: 27.7569 % 26.69% 01.07% { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo }

Hand 5 - Agreed, should have shoved pre-flop

Hand 6 - This one is one that I think we should discuss. Villian had made this move a LOT, including three times in the past 4 orbits. With that being said, what range of hands are you looking for to push back on and do you just call or push over his raise?

Hand 8 - Not sure, but I don't think I had been pushing hands yet, nor had the table.

Hand 12 - As much as I hate to say it I think I was on tilt here. Villian, who was the other short stack, purposefully waited every second he could on the hand prior to this before folding to my raise JUST to let the blinds go up before they hit me. So I think my thought process went something like - "Ok, bitch you wanna play lets go. As long as I have two live cards I will suck out on you, take your stupid ass down and call your mamma names when you leave."

Looking back I do think this is a clear fold.

There are a few other hands that I would like to get your thoughts on. I will post them when I get back to the house.

Thanks again for the input.

[taipan168]

Hand 6 - This one is one that I think we should discuss. Villian had made this move a LOT, including three times in the past 4 orbits. With that being said, what range of hands are you looking for to push back on and do you just call or push over his raise?

That's the thing about thee Gap Theorem - the fact that opp had been stealing a lot still doesn't let you open up your range THAT much. In a vacuum I would say 55+, A8s+, A9o+ or something like that (all of which I would shove back in his face).

The other things not to lose sight of are:
- You still have a good stack of almost 17x BB, why risk it on this marginal hand
- You are OOP relative to the raiser
- By calling the raise, you need to know what flops you are prepared to commit your stack with. K high? 7 high?

Against a super LAggy raiser, if my stack was much shallower (such that I have about a PSB left on the flop) I might consider a stop 'n' go here but probably still just fold.

[GatorJH]

Hand 6 - This one is one that I think we should discuss. Villian had made this move a LOT, including three times in the past 4 orbits. With that being said, what range of hands are you looking for to push back on and do you just call or push over his raise?

That's the thing about thee Gap Theorem - the fact that opp had been stealing a lot still doesn't let you open up your range THAT much. In a vacuum I would say 55+, A8s+, A9o+ or something like that (all of which I would shove back in his face).

The other things not to lose sight of are:
- You still have a good stack of almost 17x BB, why risk it on this marginal hand
- You are OOP relative to the raiser
- By calling the raise, you need to know what flops you are prepared to commit your stack with. K high? 7 high?

Against a super LAggy raiser, if my stack was much shallower (such that I have about a PSB left on the flop) I might consider a stop 'n' go here but probably still just fold.

That makes sense. Thanks

[GatorJH]

Taipan hit a couple of the other hands I was wondering about

[Tc Qd] CO (M=7.93; f+F) - if you were a bit deeper I would have raised this to steal, but stack size is awkward, I think folding is good here.

Agreed

[Jh 6s] BU (M=4.45; f+f+F) - need to see the other stack sizes but this could be a shove

Stack sizes are below (blinds are 100/200 and ante 25)
UTG - 3335
CO - 395
Hero - 1890
SB - 5535
BB - 2345


Another question I have is regarding the following:

[As 7s] CO (M=7.47; r+F) -How close is this to a shove over the raise?

[taipan168]

[Jh 6s] BU (M=4.45; f+f+F) - need to see the other stack sizes but this could be a shove

Stack sizes are below (blinds are 100/200 and ante 25)
UTG - 3335
CO - 395
Hero - 1890
SB - 5535
BB - 2345

Fold unless SB has been playing super tight (ie calling ranges 66+, AT+)

Another question I have is regarding the following:

[As 7s] CO (M=7.47; r+F) -How close is this to a shove over the raise?

Need to see the whole HH, how much the raise was to be sure, but in a vacuum this one is a fold for me. I think I need something like 77+, AJ+ to shove over here. It is read dependent on how LAggy the UTG raiser is though.

[GatorJH]

Another question I have is regarding the following:

[As 7s] CO (M=7.47; r+F) -How close is this to a shove over the raise?

Need to see the whole HH, how much the raise was to be sure, but in a vacuum this one is a fold for me. I think I need something like 77+, AJ+ to shove over here. It is read dependent on how LAggy the UTG raiser is though.

UTG was fairly LAGGY and I almost pushed. Wish I would have as you can see below (but that is probably being results oriented).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG (t2025)
Hero (t2240)
Button (t5760)
SB (t2195)
BB (t1280)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, 7.
UTG raises to t800, 3 folds, BB raises to t1280, UTG calls t480.

Flop: (t2660) 5, 9, T (2 players)

Turn: (t2660) 3 (2 players)

River: (t2660) 8 (2 players)

Final Pot: t2660

Results in white below:
UTG has 4h Ac (high card, ace).
BB has 4s 4d (one pair, fours).
Outcome: BB wins t2660.

[taipan168]

I think it is being results oriented. Save your chips for a good open pushing opportunity!

[givememyleg]

Pushing that A7s would have been real bad.

[GatorJH]

Pushing that A7s would have been real bad.

so I play about 10 hands VERY poorly yet the one hand I actually played correctly was the one hand that had I played it badly would have won. Figures.

Just call me MR. Fish

[Da GOAT]

Pushing that A7s would have been real bad.

so I play about 10 hands VERY poorly yet the one hand I actually played correctly was the one hand that had I played it badly would have won. Figures.

Just call me MR. Fish

nice discussion guys