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    Default Laydown y/n? What do you put him on?

    55$NLHE: Villain has already pushed a river before, but has not shown many hands. All I know is he is aggressive. I'm not sure what I could put him on that I can beat, except KQ, KJ. How bout you?

    Thx

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t2525)
    SB (t3205)
    BB (t6106)
    UTG (t2472)
    Hero (t5234)
    MP1 (t2394)
    MP2 (t4496)
    MP3 (t2380)
    CO (t5900)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t555, 6 folds, BB calls t355.

    Flop: (t1210) T, 8, Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t777, BB calls t777.

    Turn: (t2764) J (2 players)
    BB bets t4774 (All-In), Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t7538
  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    55$NLHE: Villain has already pushed a river before, but has not shown many hands. All I know is he is aggressive. I'm not sure what I could put him on that I can beat, except KQ, KJ. How bout you?

    Thx

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button (t2525)
    SB (t3205)
    BB (t6106)
    UTG (t2472)
    Hero (t5234)
    MP1 (t2394)
    MP2 (t4496)
    MP3 (t2380)
    CO (t5900)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, K.
    1 fold, Hero raises to t555, 6 folds, BB calls t355.

    Flop: (t1210) T, 8, Q (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t777, BB calls t777.

    Turn: (t2764) J (2 players)
    BB bets t4774 (All-In), Hero folds.

    Final Pot: t7538
    Well I think he has something along the lines of K-9, J-9 or maybe . I think you mis-played this hand terribly (You want help well were gonna give it too ya straight). Not having position you need to raise it atleast 3.5xBB, even in late position you need to be raising KK 3xbb. The raise to 555 is way to small, you gave BB odds to call.
    Then on the flop, thats a dangerous board I would bet 1,500 ATLEAST. Better to win a small pot, than lose a big one unessicarly.
  3. #3
    call, you are only behind AK, JJ, QQ, TT, 88, QJ,TJ, QT, J8, T8, Q8, AA and any 9.

    ok, maybe fold.
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  5. #5
    re : slash

    I think trying to overprotect a big pair late in a multi is terrible. Esp when you're good enough to fold like OP.

    edit : I'm no mtt expert, but I take it you advocate raising this much when you're stealing the blinds and raising more with a big pair. Comon man...
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  6. #6
    2.5xbb - 3xbb is fine. You want action with KK so you welcome a caller. I would bet a little more than half pot. If he comes along then he is probably on FD or SD. So the J on the turn is a scare cared. You don't want to play a big pot on this board.

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