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  1. #1

    Default I love getting stacked...

    Hand 1: Why can't I fold this?? I know I am beat here...but for some reason I convince myself "oh maybe he has KJ/KT"...

    Anyone else calling here?

    Villain is 30/16/3...so I dont think he's limping KJ, looks like 33/55 here everytime to me.

    GAME #486103371: Texas Hold'em NL $1.00/$2.00 2007-02-15 22:47:29
    Table Kiffan
    Seat 1: JL37 ($225.13 in chips)
    Seat 3: wArA ($139.70 in chips) DEALER
    Seat 5: WelshMackem73 ($93.25 in chips)
    Seat 6: symon01 ($244.90 in chips)
    Seat 8: yannick38 ($43.70 in chips)
    Seat 10: Freddie19 ($279.40 in chips)
    WelshMackem73: Post SB $1.00
    symon01: Post BB $2.00
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to JL37 Q K
    yannick38: Call $2.00
    Freddie19: Call $2.00
    JL37: Raise $11.00
    wArA: Fold
    WelshMackem73: Fold
    symon01: Fold
    yannick38: Fold
    Freddie19: Call $9.00
    *** FLOP *** K 3 5
    Freddie19: Check
    JL37: Bet $20.00
    Freddie19: Call $20.00
    *** TURN *** K
    Freddie19: Check
    JL37: Bet $35.00
    Freddie19: Raise $70.00
    JL37: Call $35.00
    *** RIVER *** 7
    Freddie19: Bet $125.00
    JL37: Allin $124.13

    hand 2:

    What do you guys think of this one?
    Villain is 18/9/2.5

    GAME #486112718: Texas Hold'em NL $1.00/$2.00 2007-02-15 23:07:32
    Table Kiffan
    Seat 1: JL37 ($228.00 in chips)
    Seat 3: stecocosta ($98.85 in chips) DEALER
    Seat 5: WelshMackem73 ($128.90 in chips)
    Seat 6: symon01 ($198.20 in chips)
    Seat 8: yannick38 ($185.20 in chips)
    WelshMackem73: Post SB $1.00
    symon01: Post BB $2.00
    yannick38: Post SB $1.00
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to JL37 9 7
    yannick38: Call $1.00
    JL37: Raise $9.00
    stecocosta: Fold
    WelshMackem73: Fold
    symon01: Call $7.00
    yannick38: Fold
    *** FLOP *** 7 8 9
    symon01: Check
    JL37: Bet $16.00
    symon01: Raise $60.00
    JL37: Raise $203.00
    symon01: Allin $129.20
  2. #2
    Hand 1 i push the turn, hand 2 is good.
  3. #3
    Hand 2 absolutely sucks. You're either barely ahead or way way behind.
    Hand 1: I'd prob push the turn but I don't think it's right because you aren't beating much.

    re: hand 2
    24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

    Board: 7s 8d 9c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 39.558% 38.00% 01.56% 9405 385.50 { 9h7h }
    Hand 1: 60.442% 58.88% 01.56% 14574 385.50 { JJ-77, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s }

    This is garbage to. Since the board is rainbow and you have 97 in hearts there are less combinations of SCs that he could have for 2 pair, also take into consideration he probably reraises 99/TT/JJ because you're button raising a dead blind...so the odds are actually worse. Add in ATs-QTs and the odds are 51.6%-48.4% for your opponent but these hands aren't as likely.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    Hand 2 absolutely sucks. You're either barely ahead or way way behind.
    Hand 1: I'd prob push the turn but I don't think it's right because you aren't beating much.

    re: hand 2
    24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

    Board: 7s 8d 9c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 39.558% 38.00% 01.56% 9405 385.50 { 9h7h }
    Hand 1: 60.442% 58.88% 01.56% 14574 385.50 { JJ-77, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s }

    This is garbage to. Since the board is rainbow and you have 97 in hearts there are less combinations of SCs that he could have for 2 pair, also take into consideration he probably reraises 99/TT/JJ because you're button raising a dead blind...so the odds are actually worse. Add in ATs-QTs and the odds are 51.6%-48.4% for your opponent but these hands aren't as likely.
    You didn't include the hand that he actually turned over
  5. #5
    66?
  6. #6
    T8
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by JL
    T8
    I actually had T8s on there but everytime I put it and pressed calculate it put T8s+. Oh well. It didn't make a difference so I just left it out. Still got the idea of way behind or slightly ahead.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    Hand 2 absolutely sucks. You're either barely ahead or way way behind.
    So what should he do? Fold the flop?
  9. #9
    Apparently he was 55 v 43, with 2 to tie. I'll take that.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by bigslikk
    Apparently he was 55 v 43, with 2 to tie. I'll take that.
    He's that percentage if you know his hand. Against his range he is a 60/40 dog and as I said before it's worse than that because I included hands he's normally reraising pf.

    So what should he do?
    Fold the flop!
  11. #11
    [quote="JL"]
    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    Hand 2 absolutely sucks. You're either barely ahead or way way behind.
    Hand 1: I'd prob push the turn but I don't think it's right because you aren't beating much.

    re: hand 2
    24,750 games 0.005 secs 4,950,000 games/sec

    Board: 7s 8d 9c
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 39.558% 38.00% 01.56% 9405 385.50 { 9h7h }
    Hand 1: 60.442% 58.88% 01.56% 14574 385.50 { JJ-77, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s }

    This is garbage to. Since the board is rainbow and you have 97 in hearts there are less combinations of SCs that he could have for 2 pair, also take into consideration he probably reraises 99/TT/JJ because you're button raising a dead blind...so the odds are actually worse. Add in ATs-QTs and the odds are 51.6%-48.4% for your opponent but these hands aren't as likely.
    LOL at the incredibly tight range you're putting villian on int he second hand. Will you come over to my house and check under my bed for monsters too?
    TheXianti: (Triptanes) why are you not a thinking person?
  12. #12
    An 18/9 playing OOP and putting in this action has a very tight range.

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