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Overcards with Nut Flush draw, heavy action.

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  1. #1

    Default Overcards with Nut Flush draw, heavy action.

    No real strong reads on any oppenents. After shorty raises, I was planning to just push, but SB's AI really threw me off and made me think my A's and Q's werent outs. Call or fold? I cover SB in case you didn't notice.

    Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

    CO ($51.13)
    Button ($34.23)
    SB ($70.40)
    Hero ($95.15)
    UTG ($34.11)
    MP ($59.11)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A.
    UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero bets $3, UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls $2, SB calls $2.

    Flop: ($9) 9, 7, T (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $5, Button raises to $10, SB raises to $68.15 (All-In), HERO calls or fold??
  2. #2
    It's 63 to win 92 if I'm figuring it correctly which means it's a relatively close decision. If you think button is going to stack off, which I am assuming he will being short, then you definitely should call.
  3. #3
    This is a pretty sick spot. SB has kind of an awkward stack here. Like spenda said if I think btn will call, which he probably will, I might gamble. If sb had 100 bbs this is an easier decision. Do you feel like gambooling? After saying all of that in the heat of the moment I probably wuss out and muck.
  4. #4
    pretty tight... Only thing I do differently is raise more preflop with 4 limpers
    to $4.
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    ive never ever ever ever folded the nut flush draw in an unraised pot on the flop. even though you guys are kinda deep i still stick it in here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    ive never ever ever ever folded the nut flush draw in an unraised pot on the flop. even though you guys are kinda deep i still stick it in here.
    I don't understand why though? He doesn't have odds to hit his flush and he definately can't count is overs as outs here. What am I missing?


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    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
  7. #7
    I would fold this approximately never
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  8. #8
    I think A8s would be no question, but I'm such a pansy when it comes to draws like this... Does the limit effect if this should be felted or not? At higher stakes I can understand why you wouldn't want to fold as much due to the agressive nature but at smaller stakes I think we pretty much always need a spade here?
  9. #9
    maybe some runner runner draws and the chance that the guy could have a lower draw? also the chance the guy is an utter donk and is Playing JT or something like that this way.
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  10. #10
    I had kind of a similar hand: No reads, just sat down.

    I think pushing the flop may have been better, but I think if I don't pick up 4 outs on the turn I may fold.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB ($50)
    UTG ($20.55)
    zenbitz ($46.75)
    Button ($81.20)
    SB ($99.05)

    Preflop: zenbitz is MP with T, A.
    1 fold, zenbitz raises to $1.5, Button calls $1.50, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($3.75) 4, 8, 3 (2 players)
    zenbitz bets $2, Button raises to $6, zenbitz calls $4.

    Turn: ($15.75) 2 (2 players)
    zenbitz checks, Button bets $10, zenbitz raises to $39.25 (All-In)
  11. #11
    nh, normally I just push flop. Now that I think about it though I dont know how good it is. What weaker hands are calling a push? hmmmm...
  12. #12
    first hand cont bet 7 or 8 in general, they fold mid pair type hands and if they call yo pots just bigger when you spike that spade, also when you cont bet almost pot you can almost always get a free turn card
    as played though call if your read is button will call, if not fold
  13. #13
    I agree with c-luvin. On a draw heavy board like this your cont bets should be closer to pot, because the opps don't think a made hand is going to make a half pot bet.
  14. #14
    Yeah the hand converter screwed up. Pot was actually 8 and i bet 6 into it. Donno wtf happened..

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