pushing opps off split pots

[losttrem]

I usually dont do this, but in this case I was pretty certain, that there was very little risk for me, since there was no flush draw and the only hand containing a 6 that I could see calling my preflop raise was 66 or maybe A6 if I am up against a total donkey. So how is this line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP3 (t1380)
CO (t1490)
Button (t1460)
SB (t1560)
BB (t1460)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1770)
Hero (t1380)
MP2 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, Hero raises to t120, 2 folds, CO calls t120, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t100.

Flop: (t390) 2, A, 4 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t390) 5 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t180, CO calls t180, UTG+1 calls t180.

River: (t930) 3 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t1080 (All-In), ...

[Fortune 500]

Nh. 66 is unlikely.

Reverse the scenario. Let's say he pushes. Do you call?

Would you make this same play in a cash game?(Note: It's wrong, I think... but why?)

[losttrem]

In this particular situation I am pretty sure I would call. A hand containing a six is just too unlikely to be around.

I dont have much clue about cash games. But I think this kind of move is considered wrong, because it just blows up the rake unneccessarily. In a tourney of course there is no rake on each pot.

[Fortune 500]

because it just blows up the rake unneccessarily.

Bingo.

Consider this, and I'm not saying it's right or wrong...

How often is opp gonna call you? I would think that they'll call more often than they'll fold by a large margin.

Theoretically, let's say you make more of a "value bet" here of around 500. Opponent pushes over top. How sick do we feel?

I'm not entirely certain just checking behind isn't the better play here. I don't know. I wrestle with this question a lot, and I don't know the answer... are we deriving value by knocking "splits" out of the pot, or are we being very -EV when someone calls, and rolls over a 6? How does position affect this?

[drmcboy]

you will run into a checked 6 here so rarely that you should push 100% of the time.

I'm not entirely certain just checking behind isn't the better play here. I don't know. I wrestle with this question a lot, and I don't know the answer... are we deriving value by knocking "splits" out of the pot, or are we being very -EV when someone calls, and rolls over a 6? How does position affect this?

It's fairly simple - how often does he have a 6?

Checking has 0 EV.

Pushing and getting called by a non 6 has o EV

If we push and get a fold, we win 930

If we push and get called by a 6, we lose 1080

I think you can do the math from here. What % of the time do you think he has a 6, what % do you think he'll fold? If he has a 6 more often, it's -EV, if not it will be +EV.

Position will just change the percentages - in LP he may be more likely to show up with 6x, and if he acts after us on river we'll be less sure he doesn't have the 6.

[losttrem]

My edited HH might get a bit confusing. There are two players besides me stil in the pot. The first one checked the river while the second one is still left to act. So I guess this makes it somewhat riskier. But still I didnt feel like someone with a 6 might stick around. 66/A6 are really the only plausible holdings and 66 might have very well folded on the turn.