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    Default JJ makes a straight on the turn (25NL)

    Opp is a total donkey, stats 83/0/1.8 over 53 hands. What is your turn line? Call and hope he bets the river or raise? If you are raising, how much is appropriate?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($43.35)
    Hero ($23.75)
    BB ($26.25)
    UTG ($4.40)
    UTG+1 ($24.40)
    MP1 ($14.25)
    MP2 ($22.90)
    MP3 ($31.55)
    CO ($7.20)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J.
    4 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75.

    Flop: ($3) 9, 8, T (3 players)
    Hero bets $2, BB folds, MP3 calls $2.

    Turn: ($7) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets $5.25, Hero ????
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    I might raise more pre, but that's nitpicking. Against a station I would have just value bet the turn - dont want to let fishy check behind. As played, we could minraise or push right here, but if we just call, then we can open push river for < pot, and I'd expect to get called by two pair alot.

    Lots of ways to play this one though... I'm not sure which is best - interesting hand.
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    Default Re: JJ makes a straight on the turn (25NL)

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J.
    4 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75.

    add another blind PF esp. coz opp seems like a station

    Flop: ($3) 9, 8, T (3 players)
    Hero bets $2, BB folds, MP3 calls $2.

    bet a little more again

    Turn: ($7) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets $5.25, Hero ????

    I dont see why you wanna check into a station/donk. just bet again and shove river.
    Also when you check the turn, do you have a plan?? and wont c/r turn be such a strong play that you may aswell turn your hand over?
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    Default Re: JJ makes a straight on the turn (25NL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    I dont see why you wanna check into a station/donk. just bet again and shove river.
    Also when you check the turn, do you have a plan?? and wont c/r turn be such a strong play that you may aswell turn your hand over?
    Thanks, this is just the sort of advice I was looking for.
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    I like firing three barrels here as discussed. After you check the turn though i think you have two choices:

    Minraise: He'll call cause stations can't fold after they bet. But you may not make anymore on the river.

    Call and Push river: It looks like a bluff and he is a station.

    After checking i go with minraise because he may see the size of the pot and call the river anyway (don't you just love $25NL). Three barrels were the way to get this stack though i think.
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    Default Re: JJ makes a straight on the turn (25NL)

    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    I dont see why you wanna check into a station/donk. just bet again and shove river.
    Also when you check the turn, do you have a plan?? and wont c/r turn be such a strong play that you may aswell turn your hand over?
    Thanks, this is just the sort of advice I was looking for.
    check/call and fake blocking bet on the river doesn't announce your hand as much either. By blocking I mean around $12.
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    Default Re: JJ makes a straight on the turn (25NL)

    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    check/call and fake blocking bet on the river doesn't announce your hand as much either. By blocking I mean around $12.
    are you choosing this line or showing a different alternative play to cover up our hand here?
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    Default Re: JJ makes a straight on the turn (25NL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    Quote Originally Posted by NLHE lahooozaher
    check/call and fake blocking bet on the river doesn't announce your hand as much either. By blocking I mean around $12.
    are you choosing this line or showing a different alternative play to cover up our hand here?
    i'm doing both, I probably use this line ~25% of the time. Sometimes I get caught up in the moment and think "oh shit wtf did I check for? c/ring gives my hand away...so let's not c/r and just c/c and lead river instead.". Most of the time it's by accident but against aggressive players it's a line I take some of the time.
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    bet 3bet all in on turn other wise bet turn push river.

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