misclick pre leads to this (shorttack 600NL)

[Numbr2intheWorld]

So i was doing a little shortstacking tonight at a fishy 600NL table (I Know, I Know! but i wasn't ratholing i was just building a stack from a 1/4 stack).

The start of this hand is a misclick that causes me to limp. the guy on the button is playing pretty LAGG, something like 35/30 in 150 hands. I get the sense that he may be good but i can't tell. the other guys are 45/15 types who i'm not worried about, they don't have much and aren't calling (most of the time).

My image is solid, i've showndown AA and ATo when pushing over a raise pre. None of these guys have seen me shortstack before besides maybe Skoly.

POKERSTARS GAME #9721940041: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/05/02 - 22:13:04 (ET)
Table 'Herberta' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: MrGamblor420 ($243.90 in chips)
Seat 3: OliverKlosof ($461.10 in chips)
Seat 4: IMSUPERCREAL ($154.05 in chips)
Seat 5: Skoly ($726.60 in chips)
Seat 6: Armzzz ($761.50 in chips)
Armzzz: posts small blind $3
MrGamblor420: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IMSUPERCREAL [7s Qs]
OliverKlosof: folds
MrGamblor420 said, "u beat aj"
IMSUPERCREAL: calls $6
Skoly: raises $18 to $24
Armzzz: calls $21
MrGamblor420: calls $18
IMSUPERCREAL: raises $130.05 to $154.05 and is all-in

Whatdaya think?

[benny999]

i'm not sure it might be good...umm, nah i lean toward bad.
1/4 buy in shortys naturally have a shaky image and opps are 45 vpip.

[Genitruc]

Imagine you are a reg at nl200 and have something like AJ or 88 and someone pushes over your punishing raise for like 42$ more.

A lot of the time I just say fkit and call and I think I'm part of the majority...

[sauce123]

i htink ur hovering around 0ev here

[gabe]

if i see a shortstack i dont recognize i call with most things i raise with

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I'm starting to realize this may be a dumb topic because it all depends on how loose Skoly's raising range is here and how tight his calling range is and that's something only i can guess from what i know.

[sauce123]

skoly is about 18/15 if i remember and isnt an ovverly thnking player

[biondino]

]None of these guys have seen me shortstack before besides maybe Skoly.

But surely that doesn't matter? Surely the point is you're shortstacking NOW - so either you're a ratholing motherfucker or you're a clueless fish/shot taker, and the fact you have limp/pushed won't necessarily scare off the full-stacked regs who won't give you any respect.

[phantom_lord]

ss are nearly always called light .

[Numbr2intheWorld]

It may be harder to do it with two cold caller behind.

[Halv]

He knows there are two loose donks in the blinds. He knows that you limped with a short stack. He should have tightened up his raising requirements a bit in light of this.

He knows the two cold callers are loose donks, so he won't be worrying about them when making his decision. If he'd call you HU then he'll shove now.

[Pelion]

If i was him id put you on something like a mid PP and call/shove with almost anything I raised with.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

edit: double post

[Numbr2intheWorld]

What's more important is if he tighten his raising range or not. Like he said, if i knew he had ATo and he'd call everytime this would be a good move because of the dead money.