From Bigstack to Bubble Bust

[Zee Devee]

How did I mess this up?

-----Hand 12-----
Hero's M = 5.80
PokerStars Game #9835210460: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/05/09 - 23:22:20 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (4060 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (3755 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (4490 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (1195 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
colokid1: posts small blind 200
Zee Deevee: posts big blind 400
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt 7 4
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: raises 770 to 1170 and is all-in
Zee Deevee: calls 770
Flop: 2 K T
Turn: J
River: 8
Showdown:
colokid1: shows 9 Q (a straight, Nine to King)
Zee Deevee: shows 7 4 (high card King)
colokid1 collected 2440 from pot



-----Hand 13-----
Hero's M = 4.09
PokerStars Game #9835218255: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/05/09 - 23:22:53 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (2865 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (3730 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (4465 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (2440 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
Zee Deevee: posts small blind 200
0nehole59: posts big blind 400
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt 7 5
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 600 to 1000
0nehole59: folds
Zee Deevee collected 900 from pot
Zee Deevee: doesn't show hand


2 5 BU (M = 4.77; f+F)
T 5 UTG (M = 4.74; F)
Q 8 BB (Folded to Zee Deevee.)
5 8 SB (M = 5.09; f+f+F)

-----Hand 14-----
Hero's M = 4.77
PokerStars Game #9835243222: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/05/09 - 23:24:38 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (3340 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (4005 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (3740 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (2415 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
0nehole59: posts small blind 200
BmanMR2: posts big blind 400
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt A 4
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 2915 to 3315 and is all-in
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: folds
Zee Deevee collected 1100 from pot
Zee Deevee: doesn't show hand


A 4 UTG (M = 5.74; F)
K 3 BB (M = 5.70; c+f+p+F)

-----Hand 15-----
Hero's M = 5.09
PokerStars Game #9835263207: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/05/09 - 23:26:02 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (3565 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (990 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (4565 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (4380 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
Zee Deevee: posts small blind 200
0nehole59: posts big blind 400
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt 9 8
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 3140 to 3540 and is all-in
0nehole59: calls 565 and is all-in
Flop: 2 7 J
Turn: A
River: 5
Showdown:
Zee Deevee: shows 9 8 (high card Ace)
0nehole59: shows 7 8 (a pair of Sevens)
0nehole59 collected 2030 from pot



-----Hand 16-----
Hero's M = 3.68
PokerStars Game #9835269371: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/05/09 - 23:26:28 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (2575 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (2030 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (4540 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (4355 in chips)
All players post the ante 25
0nehole59: posts small blind 200
BmanMR2: posts big blind 400
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt Q 8
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 2150 to 2550 and is all-in
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: calls 2150
Flop: J T Q
Turn: 5
River: A
Showdown:
BmanMR2: shows 8 8 (a pair of Eights)
Zee Deevee: shows Q 8 (a pair of Queens)
Zee Deevee collected 5400 from pot


2 Q UTG (M = 4.91; F)

-----Hand 17-----
Hero's M = 4.86
PokerStars Game #9835281450: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/09 - 23:27:20 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (5350 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (1755 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (1615 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (4780 in chips)
All players post the ante 50
colokid1: posts small blind 300
Zee Deevee: posts big blind 600
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt A 4
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: calls 300
Zee Deevee: checks
Flop: 8 J 4
colokid1: checks
Zee Deevee: bets 1200
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee collected 1400 from pot
Zee Deevee: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 18-----
Hero's M = 5.55
PokerStars Game #9835288902: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/09 - 23:27:51 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (6100 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (1705 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (1565 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (4130 in chips)
All players post the ante 50
Zee Deevee: posts small blind 300
0nehole59: posts big blind 600
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt A 5
BmanMR2: raises 915 to 1515 and is all-in
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 3885 to 5400
0nehole59: folds
Flop: 8 J 9
Turn: 4
River: 9
Showdown:
Zee Deevee: shows A 5 (a pair of Nines)
BmanMR2: shows J 7 (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
BmanMR2 collected 3830 from pot


7 4 BU (M = 4.12; f+F)

-----Hand 19-----
Hero's M = 4.08
PokerStars Game #9835302349: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/09 - 23:28:49 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (4485 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (2210 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (2775 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (4030 in chips)
All players post the ante 50
BmanMR2: posts small blind 300
colokid1: posts big blind 600
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt 6 A
Zee Deevee: raises 3835 to 4435 and is all-in
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee collected 1700 from pot
Zee Deevee: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 20-----
Hero's M = 5.03
PokerStars Game #9835306399: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/09 - 23:29:07 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (5535 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (2160 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (2425 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (3380 in chips)
All players post the ante 50
colokid1: posts small blind 300
Zee Deevee: posts big blind 600
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt 4 6
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: calls 300
Zee Deevee: checks
Flop: 4 T Q
colokid1: checks
Zee Deevee: bets 1200
colokid1: raises 1530 to 2730 and is all-in
Zee Deevee: folds
colokid1 collected 3800 from pot
colokid1: doesn't show hand



-----Hand 21-----
Hero's M = 3.35
PokerStars Game #9835315289: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/09 - 23:29:45 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (3685 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (2110 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (2375 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (5330 in chips)
All players post the ante 50
Zee Deevee: posts small blind 300
0nehole59: posts big blind 600
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt K 8
BmanMR2: folds
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 3035 to 3635 and is all-in
0nehole59: calls 1460 and is all-in
Flop: 5 J 3
Turn: 4
River: 6
Showdown:
Zee Deevee: shows K 8 (high card King)
0nehole59: shows Q 5 (a pair of Fives)
0nehole59 collected 4320 from pot



-----Hand 22-----
Hero's M = 1.43
PokerStars Game #9835324357: Tournament #49905583, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/05/09 - 23:30:23 (ET)
Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.1w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
Table '49905583 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Zee Deevee (1575 in chips)
Seat 6: 0nehole59 (4320 in chips)
Seat 7: BmanMR2 (2325 in chips)
Seat 8: colokid1 (5280 in chips)
All players post the ante 50
0nehole59: posts small blind 300
BmanMR2: posts big blind 600
Preflop: Zee Deevee dealt 8 J
colokid1: folds
Zee Deevee: raises 925 to 1525 and is all-in
0nehole59: folds
BmanMR2: calls 925
Flop: A T 6
Turn: 3
River: T
Showdown:
BmanMR2: shows 2 Q (a pair of Tens)
Zee Deevee: shows 8 J (a pair of Tens - lower kicker)
BmanMR2 collected 3550 from pot

[bbqsquirrel]

Hand 17/Hand 20 I think a min bet would get the job done.
Hand 18 Flat call to give BB a chance to stay in to bust the other shortie.

Otherwise you just got unlucky a bunch of times in 60-40 situations

[drmcboy]

I think you should get out of the mindset that you are a 'bigstack' here.

[Zee Devee]

ok well I'm not a 'bigstack' until hand 17, but when you have 5300 compared to 1700,1600, and 4300 doesn't it mean I am the 'bigstack' ?

[Jack Sawyer]

ok well I'm not a 'bigstack' until hand 17, but when you have 5300 compared to 1700,1600, and 4300 doesn't it mean I am the 'bigstack' ?

one loss and its role reversal time, so you're not big stack.
you'd be proper bigstack if you had 50% of chips in play or more.

[drmcboy]

by the time you get your 'bigstack' everyone's M is about 5, really a lot less since you're short handed. One of the reaons SNGs have a lower edge than any other form of poker is because you end up in these spots so often. It's almost impossible to make a huge mistake with blinds this big, espescially now that so many people understand at least basic ICM, being first in, etc.

You played fine. Any time you're posting something because you lost, rather than because you're uncertain of your play, you should strongly question it.

[fdnypoker]

Hand 12.......why call here with 74s?

Hand 16.......Q8s strong enough to push here? Opp calls with any pair, Ax.