How is this

[pgil]

$55 25,000 Guaranteed on Stars.

52 players left out of 903. Big stack has started raising a lot from pretty much all positions as you would expect. I expect him to fold most Kx type of hands and call with most A8+ hands, and expect the lowest PP's to fold. I have been very tight, stealing occasionally, but nothing of note.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO (t25645)
Button (t54309)
SB (t10386)
Hero (t25266)
UTG (t155444)
UTG+1 (t17744)
MP1 (t82525)
MP2 (t26081)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6, A.
UTG raises to t9000, 6 folds, Hero raises to t25116,

[chardrian]

If you're expecting a call, I'd rather do this with a hand more like 78, 9J, etc, than with a weak A where you are so likely dominated.

[AApoker]

Couple of points

1 -- I agree with Char, if you are gonna do this, don't do this with ace rag, do it with a hand that's less likely dominated J9, 109, 67, 78 etc...

2 -- Your stack is not really a great re-steal stack. I'd rather not make this move and push any 2 when folded to me. 25k at 1500/3k you gotta be looking to push any 2 when folded to you, not resteal, you lost a lot of your re-steal fold equity.

3 -- Don't do this against an UTG raiser, albeit he is the big stack and should be bullying -- I'm still not really super enthusiastic about shoving on an UTG raiser.

[pgil]

thanks, what is the calling range for a typical big stack in this situation? what if I have 15-20k more chips?

[AApoker]

well there is 11850 out there and he has to call 13266 more to win 11850 + 25116. so 13k to win 38k... sounds like any two to me.

[K2 the ArmA]

I only like this raise if UTG has literally almost raised every single hand pf for the entire revolution.

[drmcboy]

Yeah, the re steal bus left two orbits ago when you had 35k. If you want to do something here I would stop and go but mostly I just fold.

the cards really don't matter.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

   3,041,051,904  games     0.281 secs    10,822,248,768  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	33.467%  	30.79% 	02.68% 	     936249084 	 81491712.00   { A6o }
Hand 1: 	66.533%  	63.85% 	02.68% 	    1941819396 	 81491712.00   { 66+, A8s+, KQs, A8o+, KJo+ }


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   4,602,673,152  games     0.005 secs   920,534,630,400  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	32.739%  	32.39% 	00.35% 	    1490615224 	 16240788.00   { 87s, 87o }
Hand 1: 	67.261%  	66.91% 	00.35% 	    3079576352 	 16240788.00   { 66+, A8s+, KQs, A8o+, KJo+ }


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   5,260,197,888  games     0.005 secs     1,052,039,577,600  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	34.927%  	34.50% 	00.42% 	    1814980576 	 22257576.00   { 87s, 87o }
Hand 1: 	65.073%  	64.65% 	00.42% 	    3400702160 	 22257576.00   { 22+, A8s+, KQs, A8o+, KJo+ }


---

   3,534,195,456  games     0.313 secs    11,291,359,284  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	35.111%  	32.77% 	02.34% 	    1158073056 	 82808664.00   { A6o }
Hand 1: 	64.889%  	62.55% 	02.34% 	    2210505072 	 82808664.00   { 22+, A8s+, KQs, A8o+, KJo+ }


---

  33,561,158,400  games     0.016 secs     2,097,572,400,000  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	45.772%  	43.44% 	02.33% 	   14579302008 	782376610.00   { 87s, 87o }
Hand 1: 	54.228%  	51.90% 	02.33% 	   17417103172 	782376610.00   { random }


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  25,170,868,800  games     0.015 secs     1,678,057,920,000  games/sec

Board: 
Dead:  

	equity 	win 	tie 	      pots won 	pots tied	
Hand 0: 	57.682%  	55.87% 	01.81% 	   14063041320 	456133068.00   { A6o }
Hand 1: 	42.318%  	40.51% 	01.81% 	   10195561344 	456133068.00   { random }

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[pgil]

ya, I think in the heat of the moment I failed to realize just how much of my stack his initial raise was. silly me.

If I have about 10k more and/or villain is a med stack instead of a big stack its probably not as bad, but still not good.

He thought for a while then called w/ 44, so it was about as good as I could hope for, other than a 67