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  1. #1
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    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP3 (t1470)
    CO (t1970)
    Button (t3230)
    SB (t1410)
    BB (t1270)
    UTG (t1130)
    UTG+1 (t2360)
    Hero (t1470)
    MP2 (t1530)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T, A.
    UTG raises to t80, 1 fold, Hero calls t80, 5 folds, BB calls t60.

    Flop: (t250) 8, 9, 7 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets t140, Hero calls t140, BB folds.

    Turn: (t530) Q (2 players)
    UTG bets t340, Hero ???
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  2. #2
    I rarely call a raise with AT preflop. I probably fold. In certain situations I'll reraise.

    On the flop, I think you're much better raising or folding. You have two over cards and the high end of an OESD. That's a decent flop, so apply some pressure! By raising (semi-bluffing), you can win when you hit or when he folds.


    On the turn, it's an easy fold in my book. It's possible that the T is no longer a good out, or that the A is not a good out. You're only ~16% to make the straight, meaning that your odds are pretty bad at this point. I don't think you can continue drawing here, but I think the worse play was just calling on the flop.
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  3. #3
    fold the flop....u can wait for a better spot with ease
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Roco415
    fold the flop....u can wait for a better spot with ease
    What exactly do you think his opponent has? You're in good shape against basically anything but a set here:

    Against AJ/Q/K or JJ: we're 30% to win and he's folding to aggression a lot of the time.

    Against A9 - A7, we're about 45% to win, making a raise very good given the dead money in the middle.

    Against KK/QQ, we're again 45% to win.

    Against other non-set pocket pairs, we're the favorite to win.

    This is a great flop for us. In my book, a fold is actually pretty bad here. But we have to add some FE to it to get max value (plus we don't like missing the turn and having to evaluate).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    I rarely call a raise with AT preflop. I probably fold. In certain situations I'll reraise.

    On the flop, I think you're much better raising or folding. You have two over cards and the high end of an OESD. That's a decent flop, so apply some pressure! By raising (semi-bluffing), you can win when you hit or when he folds.


    On the turn, it's an easy fold in my book. It's possible that the T is no longer a good out, or that the A is not a good out. You're only ~16% to make the straight, meaning that your odds are pretty bad at this point. I don't think you can continue drawing here, but I think the worse play was just calling on the flop.
    I had a read on the player here. He raised preflop utg 3 orbits ago and again 2 orbits ago.

    A compulsive UTG raiser, can you give him credit for having anything here?
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  6. #6
    Calling raises with ATo is just throwing chips away especially against tight players. Calling a raise with ATs in position is not bad since you can hit more flops and it plays better in multi-way flops. I will reraise with this hand when in position when a LAG has been raising a lot or loose passive players have limped in.

    On this flop, I would probably raise and try to take it down there. As played, I think you have to fold on the turn. To answer your question about respecting his raises from UTG, I think that you have to respect them until you see what he is raising 4xbb from UTG.
  7. #7
    I never call this raise
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  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    I rarely call a raise with AT preflop. I probably fold. In certain situations I'll reraise.
    I had a read on the player here. He raised preflop utg 3 orbits ago and again 2 orbits ago.

    A compulsive UTG raiser, can you give him credit for having anything here?
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
    In certain situations I'll reraise.
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