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  1. #1

    Default $22 deepstack facing overbet early w/ KK

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    PokerStars Game #9949151485: Tournament #50007749, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/05/16 - 19:28:16 (ET)
    Table '50007749 44' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: peirules154 (12555 in chips)
    Seat 2: Rasputin67 (6350 in chips)
    Seat 3: H3poker (4810 in chips)
    Seat 4: aceben3 (5240 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 5: HOUSTONROYAL (3660 in chips)
    Seat 6: andr3w321 (6080 in chips)
    Seat 7: chickendog (8425 in chips)
    Seat 8: DatDfrunchen (11880 in chips)
    Seat 9: juanfer_ap69 (4660 in chips)
    chickendog: posts small blind 25
    DatDfrunchen: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to andr3w321 [Kd Kc]
    juanfer_ap69: calls 50
    peirules154: calls 50
    Rasputin67: folds
    H3poker: folds
    aceben3: folds
    HOUSTONROYAL: calls 50
    andr3w321: raises 300 to 350
    chickendog: folds
    DatDfrunchen: folds
    juanfer_ap69: calls 300
    peirules154: calls 300
    HOUSTONROYAL: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Th 9c 8d]
    juanfer_ap69: bets 1300
    peirules154 has timed out while being disconnected
    peirules154: folds
    peirules154 is sitting out
    peirules154 is disconnected
    peirules154 is connected
    peirules154 has returned
    andr3w321...
  2. #2
    There are only 4 hands you are ahead of 77/78/TJ/JJ and they all have 10-13 outs. Could this possibly be AT? 79 J9 I suppose also with 13 outs.

    I assume you are crushed by the following range:
    77-JJ/67/78/79/89/9T/TJ/JQ even if you throw in nutty stuff like 66/QQ/QT/KT/AT.

    But I guess someone could pokerstove it to be sure.

    I guess you have to fold.
  3. #3
    yeah, run zen's range.

    Isn't it a pot sized bet?
  4. #4
    Push if he sucks, fold if he doesn't. I think you'll run into JT or two pair a lot here.

    Quote Originally Posted by andr3w321
    No reads.
    This is exactly the type of situation that Sharkscope and ThePokerDB are made for.
  5. #5
    Normally, when someone leads out at you when you are the preflop raiser, they have a weak made hand or sometype of draw possibly with a piece of the flop.

    In this case, the lead bet was too large to a usual blocking bet, your villian has a big piece of the flop and is afraid of the straight.

    Juanafear limped UTG and was the first caller of your big preflop raise. That really smells like a pocket pair and the villian could be set camping.

    Now is the large lead bet consistent with a set on that board? Absolutely, a board of 10,9,8 is a nightmare if you flop a set of 8's and mostly you feel relieved if you can capture the pot on the flop.

    If I had to bet, your villian has a set. Of course they could have anything, but if their hand is anything else make sure your you put a big fat calling station note of them.

    Cheers
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by soupie
    Normally, when someone leads out at you when you are the preflop raiser, they have a weak made hand or sometype of draw possibly with a piece of the flop.

    In this case, the lead bet was too large to a usual blocking bet, your villian has a big piece of the flop and is afraid of the straight.

    Juanafear limped UTG and was the first caller of your big preflop raise. That really smells like a pocket pair and the villian could be set camping.

    Now is the large lead bet consistent with a set on that board? Absolutely, a board of 10,9,8 is a nightmare if you flop a set of 8's and mostly you feel relieved if you can capture the pot on the flop.

    If I had to bet, your villian has a set. Of course they could have anything, but if their hand is anything else make sure your you put a big fat calling station note of them.

    Cheers
    So, you would fold?
  7. #7
    tough one. this early in a tourney tho, most players suck and will do this with top pair or a pair with a straight draw. he could also be doing this with set or 2 pair but u need to accumulate chips to win and i think this could b a good chance to win a huge pot. if u run into a better hand n lose, that sucks but its only 20$ n there r always more tourneys.
    Thats just my opinion, so take it for wat its worth
  8. #8
    Thx for the replies. I guess its a clear fold from the sounds of it. I shoved and he showed up with a set just like soupie said. It was either 8s or 9s I forget.

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