against the maniacs

[Chopper]

turn raise is ok because of 2 flush draws. You're not going to fold, and you will be a/i on river anyway.

It's the PF 3-bet that's spewy.

Is that b/c villain isn't folding to our 3bet?

no. its because Q9 is a crappy hand...period.

A simplistic way to think about it:
lag is raising 45% of his hands. So, we should be 3-betting <45% of our hands. Q9o is not (well maybe barely) in the top 45% of hands AND it doesn't play well against the top end (since it's ragged and likely to be dominated).

Note that if he was the kind of maniac that PFR'd 45% of his hand but folded the bottom 2/3rds of these to 3-bets, (i.e, worse than 22+/AJ+) then you should always 3-bet him. He would probably adjust quickly though.

i'd prefer to wait for a better hand, myself. not necessarily AA, but something in a range worthy of a 3bet. poker can be simple. it doesnt have to spin your head in circles wondering, "if i do this, it says this, but he'll think i have this, so i should do this. wait, maybe i'll do this instead, because it means this, and he will think this. ok, i'll do...that. oops, what does that mean?"

i, personally, would rather take something into a LAG that has both potential to hit a big DOMINATING hand, or at least something that's not so marginal if the Q falls. LAGs tend to hit real hands against you when you try to "play back at them." thats where they make their money...by someone playing outside their comfort zone, and trying to "stack this guy."

yes, you should 3bet what you want to play with, but you still need to show some patience about WHAT you 3bet.

just my .02