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    Default You Weren't Supposed to Raise

    I’m running bad and just have to run this through you guys.

    My image is fine. Got sucked out on a couple times but nothing major.

    Villain is completely unremarkable (16/10/1.5).

    Plan was for villain to call then turn and stack off 1 street at a time with a 1010 type hand.

    As played this felt like a marginal fold. Am I just running-bad-weak-playing?

    $200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 25, 01:05:11 ET 2007
    Table Table 127937 (No DP) (Real Money)
    Seat 3 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: construkt ( $210.85 USD )
    Seat 2: mudwane ( $200 USD )
    Seat 3: rsuog ( $311.96 USD )
    Seat 4: niktamer111 ( $150.57 USD )
    Seat 5: ace4v2 ( $280.93 USD )
    Seat 6: HERO ( $200 USD )
    niktamer111 posts small blind [$1 USD].
    ace4v2 posts big blind [$2 USD].

    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to HERO
    HERO raises [$8 USD]
    construkt folds.
    mudwane folds.
    rsuog calls [$8 USD]
    niktamer111 calls [$7 USD]
    ace4v2 folds.

    ** Dealing Flop **

    niktamer111 bets [$8 USD]
    HERO raises [$33 USD]
    rsuog calls [$33 USD]
    niktamer111 folds.

    ** Dealing Turn **

    HERO bets [$76 USD]
    rsuog raises [$152 USD]
    HERO…
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    I could fold Queens or even Kings here.... ouch...
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    Don't unremarkable players always try to get it in on the flop with sets if there is a flush draw? And if he is the type to slowplay it on the flop, I'd think he'd continue to slowplay to the river now that he made a boat.

    Either way, we have 80$ behind in what will be a 430$ pot, this has to be a no brainer call?

    Edit: and I would be making it with a big fat smile on my face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalvSame
    Don't unremarkable players always try to get it in on the flop with sets if there is a flush draw? And if he is the type to slowplay it on the flop, I'd think he'd continue to slowplay to the river now that he made a boat.

    Either way, we have 80$ behind in what will be a 430$ pot, this has to be a no brainer call?

    Edit: and I would be making it with a big fat smile on my face.
    Sorry for the slight hijack .... Are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get in with a set?
    I started a new job so don't play much ATM, just FTP mini grind
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    Hmm, I'd think with a set this unremarkable guy would reraise on the flop fearing the donk-better could be drawing to a flush. I could see myself either folding or pushing here. I'd leave the decision up to the way I'd seen him play postflop before and go with the gut! I still think I'd rather push though...


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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfullokings
    Sorry for the slight hijack .... Are you saying we shouldn't be trying to get in with a set?
    No. I'm just saying that without a good read that he likes to slowplay I'd assume that he wouldn't be, at least not enough to fold this.

    Surely he'll have a slowplayed overpair, counterfeited 86, flush draw, OESD often enough that pushing with AA has to be standard getting 4:1? If you're going to fold to a raise on the turn I think you have to bet it smaller, like around half pot. Stack sizes make it easy to get it in on a safe river anyway.
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    shove and its not close
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum

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