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  1. #1

    Default Anything non-standard about this hand?

    I think this hand is fine, player is a tight player so I decide to go after his blind with a nice stealing hand. Call seems standard considering its a min-reraise. Push also seems standard to me.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #2614877294: $22,000 Guarantee (19491044), Table 17 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:20:25 ET - 2007/06/08
    Seat 1: DavyMcMurphy (1,340)
    Seat 2: morsjan (8,111)
    Seat 3: Muffinmuncher (10,733)
    Seat 4: SapperPro (1,740)
    Seat 5: mich_alumni (7,278)
    Seat 6: Ronin_Player (3,530)
    Seat 7: Steve Nguyen (2,743)
    Seat 8: El_Jet (11,720)
    Seat 9: Pot Pimp (3,595)
    El_Jet posts the small blind of 80
    Pot Pimp posts the big blind of 160
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mich_alumni [7d 6d]
    DavyMcMurphy folds
    morsjan folds
    Muffinmuncher folds
    SapperPro folds
    mich_alumni raises to 480
    Ronin_Player folds
    Steve Nguyen folds
    El_Jet folds
    Pot Pimp raises to 1,120
    mich_alumni calls 640
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 5d 3d]
    Pot Pimp checks
    mich_alumni bets 6,158, and is all in
  2. #2
    Looks fine to me. He has enough behind to fold, and you can't fold if you make any other bet. You're 40%+ against him if you have no FE, and clearly you have a good amount here. Finally, I think you can afford the hit when none of your draws come in.

    Yes sir, I think I like it.
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    I don't like the preflop call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    I don't like the preflop call.
    Are you suggesting a fold preflop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprayed
    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_fish
    I don't like the preflop call.
    Are you suggesting a fold preflop?
    Yeah, the pfr is quite standard though. Problem with the call is that he'll need a 12-outer or 2p+ to continue after the flop. Just hitting a 6 or 7 isn't enough usually and it's hard to know if it's good.
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    Johnny, You really fold to a near min-raise when you're in position, have plenty of chips to use for pressure, and aren't losing a ton by making the call for which you're getting huge odds? We're going to hit 2pr+ 5% of the time on the flop. Another 15% of the time we'll make a draw that combined with FE puts us in a great spot, as well as the ~5% times that we hit monster draws (oesfd) or pair+draws. We're getting odds to play just for those situations, and we have the chips to do so...

    There may be a bit too much ring mentality coming in to my thinking here...but it seems like we have enough chips for that to be okay.
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    Does villain have enough chips to really give us the implied odds though?
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    I dont like a preflop call either.


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  9. #9
    Yeah, I discussed this hand on vent, pretty much consensus was nobody liked the pre-flop call. I kind of thought along the same lines as you Jeffrey... I'm not folding to a near min-raise, I've got odds to see this flop.

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