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So I like Turning pairs into bluffs.....

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  1. #1

    Default So I like Turning pairs into bluffs.....

    Villain is Lucky x 13 a reg with whom i have played a lot. hes about 22/13 and has shown in general a tendency to bluff raise and vbet thin as opposed to make big calls against me. my image is aggro tag/lag


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($1716.90)
    MP ($1592.70)
    CO ($769.70)
    Button ($120)
    SB ($438.10)
    Hero ($696)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with J, Q.
    UTG raises to $18, 3 folds, SB calls $15, Hero calls $12.

    Flop: ($54) T, A, 3 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

    Turn: ($54) 2 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $33, UTG calls $33, SB folds.

    River: ($120) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $42, UTG raises to $333, Hero Bluff Shoves for 300ish more??


    Villain in hand is a weak looking 30/17 lag with whom i dont have a ton of history. preflop seems kind of marginal.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($618.15)
    Button ($300.40)
    SB ($285.35)
    BB ($616)
    Hero ($582)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, 9.
    Hero raises to $24, MP raises to $66, 3 folds, Hero calls $42.

    Flop: ($141) T, 5, 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $78, Hero calls $78.

    Turn: ($297) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP checks.

    River: ($297) K (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $84, Hero raises to $438,
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  2. #2
    I think you are behind in hand 1, so you are not turning it into a bluff - it IS a bluff. Well, maybe since guy is known to bluff raise you are turning a winner into a bluff. And laying odds besides... don't like with your read.


    Hand 2 is muuuuch closer. Kind of a two-way, because he might fold K or J and might call with 66-99. I don't like PF because you are OOP, unless you are sure you can out play him. Did you?
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    hand 1 sucks hand 2 is sweet
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    lol zenbitz u think im posting results after first reply???
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  5. #5
    In hand 1, why check behind on the flop? Are you opposed to building pots 3 handed with at least 12 near-nut outs? I much prefer betting the flop...
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    lol zenbitz u think im posting results after first reply???
    I guess I meant "did you THINK you could out play him post flop"
  7. #7
    hand 1 : i m not sure you need to shove since you very likely have the best hand already. His range seems like KhQh/bluff so I don't think you get him to fold better by pushing.

    13%pfr isn't usually raising K10s utg but his hand looks a lot like that to me.

    Hand 2 is fine against a strong player but I don't really like it vs a weak player who'll have a tough time folding AK in this spot.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  8. #8
    also Jeffrey I'm pretty sure sauce was expecting villain to bet flop in Hand 1 so he could CR.

    I agree though that leading is fun in this spot.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    hand 1 sucks hand 2 is sweet
    yo bitch so like i folded hand 1 cause he has a combo draw runner runner flush and KQ and JJ too much even though intuitively at the time i wanted to shove cause hes fucking real lame and been givin me shit with hsi bluff raises but whatever ill stack him later i dont care.

    and hand 2 i actually shoved and he 3 sec thought and folded cause AK isnt good here ever cause hes a dumb bitch and cant knock my hustle herrrewego vegas gogogogo
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  10. #10
    shiiiiiiiiiyat playa
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  11. #11
    hand 2 is sweet but who likes a smaller raise?
    hand 1: I dont get it isnt this a backdoor flush always?
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