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8-8 $6.50 Turbo against Laggy player

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    Default 8-8 $6.50 Turbo against Laggy player

    Had notes on simens66 that he reraised then called an all in with 8-8 early in the tourney, had also raised PF with K-Qo from UTG which I noted as loose.

    Is This an easy shove given my stack compared to blinds? SNGWIZ says its a fold. Didn't have any reads on person acting after me, however his Sharkscope stats had him as SUPERTILT and very much a losing player.

    PokerStars Game #10494099051: Tournament #53162649, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/06/18 - 08:07:45 (ET)
    Table '53162649 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 3: Shawn_C_S (1734 in chips)
    Seat 6: G.Emond (5421 in chips)
    Seat 7: simens66 (5255 in chips)
    Seat 9: RandomHero83 (1090 in chips)
    Shawn_C_S: posts the ante 25
    G.Emond: posts the ante 25
    simens66: posts the ante 25
    RandomHero83: posts the ante 25
    RandomHero83: posts small blind 200
    Shawn_C_S: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to RandomHero83 [8s 8d]
    G.Emond: folds
    simens66: raises 800 to 1200
    RandomHero83: ???
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    With those reads and your stack size and blinds at I'd say this is an easy push. Even without those reads with an M just above 1.5 I'd say you have to gamble here to stay alive.
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    What raising range do you have simens on and what calling range do you have Shawn on? Set simens to loose (like 40% given he's on the button and the CL just folded in front of him) and Shawn to supertight (say 5%) and see what happens.

    Personally I would call and gambool it up here, you're almost dead and since Shawn won't call without a monster you have a LOT of dead chips in the pot...
  4. #4
    I can't see how SNGWIZ would say this is a fold. 88 against his range and your stack vs. blinds = call. He should be pushing any two here since you and bb are extreme shorties.
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    It only becomes a push with SNGWIZ when Simens range is 43.9% (this with Shawn at 5% like you said).
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Random_Hero
    It only becomes a push with SNGWIZ when Simens range is 43.9% (this with Shawn at 5% like you said).
    Put him at almost any two. He should be pushing with almost any two in this spot since you and the bb are so short. 88 is a monster.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Sprayed
    Quote Originally Posted by Random_Hero
    It only becomes a push with SNGWIZ when Simens range is 43.9% (this with Shawn at 5% like you said).
    Put him at almost any two. He should be pushing with almost any two in this spot since you and the bb are so short. 88 is a monster.
    ok thanks

    I did shove it (called the all-in) and won. was just a bit miffed when WIZ said it was a fold. I realise now though that my ranges for villains was wrong.
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    Medium pocket pairs on the bubble for me are a problem, however with that stack, and those blinds surely this is an insta-call? You're probably not going to be around long enough for a better shot. Even from the button next hand pushing any two you have the chip leader as BB only needing to call your 450 raise.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_Hero
    I did shove it (called the all-in) and won. was just a bit miffed when WIZ said it was a fold. I realise now though that my ranges for villains was wrong.
    Yeah, you need to watch the default ranges that SNG Wiz assigns, they can be a bit funky at times.
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Quote Originally Posted by Random_Hero
    I did shove it (called the all-in) and won. was just a bit miffed when WIZ said it was a fold. I realise now though that my ranges for villains was wrong.
    Yeah, you need to watch the default ranges that SNG Wiz assigns, they can be a bit funky at times.
    yeah I've noticed. I'm getting used to it though. I'd prefer if the hand ranges were the same as Pokerstoves as I'm used to that but meh...

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