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  1. #1

    Default 11$ SnG. Hard preflop hand! Discuss

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    ---Tournament Summary---
    $11 SNG: Finished 9/9 for $0
    Data for 14 hands.
    You played 4 hands (28.57%)
    You raised 3 times preflop (21.43%)


    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 38.67
    Full Tilt Poker Game #2739844862: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (20889426), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:45:36 ET - 2007/06/22
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Seat 1: Sergeant Hulka (1,470)
    Seat 2: snowlocktoo (1,335)
    Seat 3: ZwiFTi (1,740)
    Seat 4: AlphaCrow44 (1,470)
    Seat 5: johnny9x (1,515)
    Seat 6: C-BOWX-HUARD (1,380)
    Seat 7: smierz21 (1,500)
    Seat 8: Lifetimelp (1,500)
    Seat 9: ancruman (1,590)
    AlphaCrow44 posts the small blind of 15
    johnny9x posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #3
    Preflop: ZwiFTi dealt K A
    C-BOWX-HUARD folds
    smierz21 folds
    Lifetimelp raises to 90
    ancruman folds
    Sergeant Hulka raises to 160
    snowlocktoo folds
    ZwiFTi has requested TIME
    ZwiFTi raises to 1,740, and is all in
    AlphaCrow44 folds
    johnny9x folds
    Lifetimelp calls 1,410, and is all in
    Sergeant Hulka calls 1,310, and is all in
    ZwiFTi shows K A
    Lifetimelp shows Q Q
    Sergeant Hulka shows K K
    Uncalled bet of 240 returned to ZwiFTi
    Flop: 4 2 8
    Turn: 3
    River: T
    ZwiFTi shows Ace King high
    Lifetimelp shows a pair of Queens
    Lifetimelp wins the side pot (60) with a pair of Queens
    Sergeant Hulka shows a pair of Kings
    Sergeant Hulka wins the main pot (4,455) with a pair of Kings


    9 5 BU (M = 5.33; f+r+p+c+r+c+F)
    T 9 CO-1 (M = 5.33; f+f+r+c+F)
    3 Q MP2 (M = 5.33; f+f+r+F)
    J 3 MP1 (M = 5.33; f+f+F)
    J 2 UTG+1 (M = 5.33; f+F)
    8 5 UTG (M = 4.00; F)
    K 3 BB (M = 4.00; f+f+c+f+f+c+r+f+F)
    9 A SB (M = 3.33; f+f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    2 3 BU (M = 3.00; f+f+f+r+f+f+F)

    Okaj, wierd hand. Very early on in a 11$ SnG. Player1 raises. I put him on A(T-K) / Pair. Player2 reraises, so i put him on a high pair. Now stupid me sitting here with AK, with a FullTilt timer who is too short, is thinking about calling on going all in. Over the 10 sec of time i had i came to the conclusion that if i made a all in bet, maybe Player1 would call me with AQ, AJ and player two would fold his JJ, or maybe queens.

    Now after when i think about it, i should have either smootcalled to see if a A or K flopped, which would eat up their pairs, or just folded the hand right there.

    I like the idea of reraising all in with AK vs a raise, but a raise and a reraise? Why couldnt they just be manics?

    And, another thing i want you guys to discuss, was this to early to bring AK to this level of fight?

    What would you guys do in the same spot? Was it wrong of me to go all in there. I had a 3 way fight and it could be profitable.

    Sorry about my english skillz Tjau

    /ZwiFT
  2. #2
    You answered your own questions. It would have been best for you to either call or just fold. A good rule of thumb is to fold all hands except KK+, maybe QQ+, after a raise and a reraise. Obviously this is read dependent and that's why it's important to have a read that someone is reraising wide. However, in this spot you have no idea because this is like one of the first hands. So, I would fold and respect their raises until otherwise.

    Going all in preflop with like 55bbs is crazy. Especially with no reads and it's very early in an SNG.
  3. #3
    Against a raise and a re-raise I would have smooth called. This does a couple of things for you. If the original raiser re-raises or pushes and gets a call by villian two you can now feel better about folding. Secondly, as you mentioned you can get away if you miss the flop.
    Poker is easy, it's winning at poker that's hard.
  4. #4
    I take the same line as Gator, I like a flat call here and if no A or K comes on the flop then I'm done with the hand.

    A fold isn't bad either. As sprayed said, you kinda answered your own questions

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