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    Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

    CO (t1515)
    Hero (t3270)
    SB (t1665)
    BB (t3105)
    UTG (t2010)
    MP1 (t1970)
    MP2 (t1465)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
    3 folds, Hero raises to t180, 1 fold, BB raises to t600, 1 fold, Hero calls t420.

    Flop: (t1220) , , (2 players)
    BB bets t1260, Hero ??????

    Is a fold here even thinkable? Or simply shoving over is good?
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    Should have shoved over PF!

    Now he either has QQ+, AK or AQ (most likely).

    I dunno, push and immediately start another one going?

    I guess theres some chance he's on TT or JJ and cant let go.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    Should have shoved over PF!

    Now he either has QQ+, AK or AQ (most likely).

    I dunno, push and immediately start another one going?

    I guess theres some chance he's on TT or JJ and cant let go.

    My hand is too good to just shove over PF.
    I can play it to extract max value postflop.
    Plus, I have position on reraiser. I'm playing this flop.

    However, it does take a lot of balls to reraise PF w/ JJ or TT, plus cbetting pot on that flop.
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    How many 3 bets arent going to call your push HU? I keep forgetting you've both got big stacks. I still think its worth a 4-bet PF and hope to induce a push from him.

    AA is better than 85% against the standard 3-bet hands, so any time you can get your money in PF the better I'd have thought.
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    I agree with bjsaust, I'm either shoving over his preflop 3-bet or 4-betting like half my remaining stack (1600) hoping that he will shove over.

    As played, you absolutely have to shove over on the flop. AK pays you off EVERY time here. If he has KK or QQ then although it would make no difference to the result, take it as a lesson to 4-bet/shove over next time!

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