i am a f***** donkey , right?

[Showtime23]

Hey, i dont know what to do, some donkeys all my raises with weak aces and then... see yourself


PokerStars Game #10685281571: Tournament #54142966, $6.00+$0.60 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/06/29 - 19:26:11 (ET)
Table '54142966 1' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: CMelik23 (2025 in chips)
Seat 2: KC M0NEY (1240 in chips)
Seat 3: ChipTaylorr (1195 in chips)
Seat 4: ali-yenn (2285 in chips)
Seat 5: heartlyte (1435 in chips)
Seat 6: cxxadmirer1 (820 in chips)
heartlyte: posts small blind 15
cxxadmirer1: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipTaylorr [Ah Kh]
CMelik23: raises 60 to 90
KC M0NEY: folds
ChipTaylorr: raises 60 to 150
ali-yenn: folds
heartlyte: calls 135
cxxadmirer1: folds
CMelik23: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9d 8h]
heartlyte: checks
CMelik23: bets 1875 and is all-in
ChipTaylorr: calls 1045 and is all-in
heartlyte: folds
*** TURN *** [Ad 9d 8h] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 9d 8h Jh] [Ts]
ChipTaylorr said, "not again"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CMelik23: shows [9h As] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
ChipTaylorr: shows [Ah Kh] (a pair of Aces)
CMelik23 collected 2570 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2570 | Rake 0
Board [Ad 9d 8h Jh Ts]
Seat 1: CMelik23 showed [9h As] and won (2570) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 2: KC M0NEY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: ChipTaylorr showed [Ah Kh] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: ali-yenn (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: heartlyte (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: cxxadmirer1 (big blind) folded before Flop

or here great A9 strikes again

PokerStars Game #10685225449: Tournament #54143100, $6.00+$0.60 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/06/29 - 19:22:13 (ET)
Table '54143100 1' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: modest bet (2565 in chips)
Seat 2: freneticfool (1780 in chips)
Seat 3: vernieboy1 (1510 in chips)
Seat 4: ChipTaylorr (1715 in chips)
Seat 5: Cardhu24 (1430 in chips)
freneticfool: posts small blind 15
vernieboy1: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChipTaylorr [As Qd]
ChipTaylorr: raises 60 to 90
Cardhu24: folds
modest bet: calls 90
freneticfool: folds
vernieboy1: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6s 4s]
ChipTaylorr: checks
modest bet: bets 90
ChipTaylorr: raises 160 to 250
modest bet: calls 160
*** TURN *** [Ah 6s 4s] [9h]
ChipTaylorr: bets 500
modest bet: raises 500 to 1000
ChipTaylorr: raises 375 to 1375 and is all-in
modest bet: calls 375
*** RIVER *** [Ah 6s 4s 9h] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChipTaylorr: shows [As Qd] (a pair of Aces)
modest bet: shows [Ac 9d] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
modest bet collected 3475 from pot
modest bet said, "gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3475 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 6s 4s 9h Th]
Seat 1: modest bet (button) showed [Ac 9d] and won (3475) with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 2: freneticfool (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: vernieboy1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: ChipTaylorr showed [As Qd] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Cardhu24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


This is 6,50$ shorthanded sng, players there are usually so dumb and totally overrate their hands, but in both cases the situation is screaming " I HAVE TWOPAIR, HAHAH" . Good players lay this down right? Thx for your help, just gettin little frustraded these hands happend right at the same time.

[Zee Devee]

Hand 1: Don't minraise preflop. Make it 270-300 to go.

I call this all day in a 6.50. You will see a lot of weaker aces and flush/straight draws here that will justify the call over the long run.

Hand 2: I don't like the checkraise on the flop here unless opp has shown to be super aggro. Still, make it a larger raise. You are only making him call 160 into a pot of 565, or odds of 3.5:1, giving him odds if he is on a flush draw.

I could see laying this down on the turn after he raises your bet, however I don't think I could do it live.

[mcatdog]

I don't understand why you're trying to be so tricky with all the min-raising and check-raising against these players. Just bet your good hands hard and they'll call with terrible hands because they overrate their hands, like you said.

No need to suck them in by making it 60 more with AK when they'll still call if you make it 200 more.

[taipan168]

Ya, I agree with the others. Make it 200 to go on Hand 1 and go broke when you hit the ace.

On Hand 2, the check/raise is bad with the flush draw out there, just bet 3/4 pot and go from there.

[Fnord]

I don't understand why you're trying to be so tricky.