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    Default 6.5 PS for review

    Would like some input. Thanks.

    -----Hand 1-----
    Hero's M = 50.00
    PokerStars Game #10700531634: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level I (10/20) - 2007/06/30 - 17:30:27 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Goggen_S (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Mystreau (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: nanaloo (1500 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (1500 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (1500 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dr. Xie (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1500 in chips)
    Seat 9: BMoneyLess (1500 in chips)
    Mystreau: posts small blind 10
    nanaloo: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Kh Kc]
    notyholez: calls 20
    Fivehole2006: calls 20
    Hero: raises 100 to 120
    Dr. Xie: folds
    Joyleen: folds
    BMoneyLess: folds
    Goggen_S: folds
    Mystreau: folds
    nanaloo: calls 100
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006: folds
    *** FLOP *** [6c 4c 3c]
    nanaloo: checks
    Hero: bets 290
    nanaloo: calls 290
    *** TURN *** [6c 4c 3c] [Th]
    nanaloo: checks
    Hero: checks
    *** RIVER *** [6c 4c 3c Th] [Qh]
    nanaloo: bets 320
    Hero: calls 320
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    nanaloo: shows [Ac Td] (a pair of Tens)
    Hero: shows [Kh Kc] (a pair of Kings)
    Hero collected 1510 from pot


    [7s 4s] UTG+1 (M=76.00; f+F)
    [5h 6s] UTG (M=76.00; F)

    -----Hand 2-----
    Hero's M = 76.00
    PokerStars Game #10700567210: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level I (10/20) - 2007/06/30 - 17:32:57 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Goggen_S (1460 in chips)
    Seat 2: Mystreau (1450 in chips)
    Seat 3: nanaloo (760 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (1440 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (1540 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2280 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dr. Xie (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1570 in chips)
    Seat 9: BMoneyLess (1500 in chips)
    Fivehole2006: posts small blind 10
    Hero: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jh Ts]
    Dr. Xie: folds
    Joyleen: folds
    BMoneyLess: folds
    Goggen_S: raises 40 to 60
    Mystreau: folds
    nanaloo: calls 60
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006: calls 50
    Hero: calls 40
    *** FLOP *** [6h 7h Jd]
    Fivehole2006: bets 100
    Hero: calls 100
    Goggen_S: raises 700 to 800
    nanaloo: calls 700 and is all-in
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: folds
    *** TURN *** [6h 7h Jd] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [6h 7h Jd 4c] [5c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Goggen_S: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
    nanaloo: shows [8s Js] (a straight, Four to Eight)
    nanaloo collected 1840 from pot


    [2c 4d] SB (M=70.67; f+f+c+r+f+f+f+F)
    [8c Ts] BU (M=70.33; f+r+f+f+f+f+F)
    [Kc 3c] CO (M=46.89; c+f+c+c+f+F)

    -----Hand 3-----
    Hero's M = 46.89
    PokerStars Game #10700629402: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level II (15/30) - 2007/06/30 - 17:37:18 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 1: Goggen_S (950 in chips)
    Seat 2: Mystreau (1130 in chips)
    Seat 3: nanaloo (1810 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (3120 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (1380 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2110 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dr. Xie (1450 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1490 in chips)
    Seat 9: BMoneyLess (60 in chips)
    BMoneyLess: posts small blind 15
    Goggen_S: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [4d 4c]
    Mystreau: calls 30
    nanaloo: calls 30
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006: calls 30
    Hero: calls 30
    Dr. Xie: calls 30
    Joyleen: calls 30
    BMoneyLess: raises 30 to 60 and is all-in
    Goggen_S: folds
    Mystreau: calls 30
    nanaloo: calls 30
    Fivehole2006: calls 30
    Hero: calls 30
    Dr. Xie: calls 30
    Joyleen: calls 30
    *** FLOP *** [5h 3s 7c]
    Mystreau: checks
    nanaloo: checks
    Fivehole2006: checks
    Hero: checks
    Dr. Xie: bets 120
    Joyleen: folds
    Mystreau: folds
    nanaloo: folds
    Fivehole2006: raises 360 to 480
    Hero: folds
    Dr. Xie: folds
    *** TURN *** [5h 3s 7c] [Ad]
    *** RIVER *** [5h 3s 7c Ad] [Ac]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Fivehole2006: shows [9h Jc] (a pair of Aces)
    Fivehole2006 collected 240 from side pot
    BMoneyLess: shows [Ah Qc] (three of a kind, Aces)
    BMoneyLess collected 450 from main pot


    [9h Ks] MP2 (M=45.56; c+c+f+F)
    [5h 9s] MP1 (M=45.56; f+f+F)

    -----Hand 4-----
    Hero's M = 27.33
    PokerStars Game #10700680419: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level III (25/50) - 2007/06/30 - 17:40:53 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Goggen_S (500 in chips)
    Seat 2: Mystreau (1025 in chips)
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2305 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (3030 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (1440 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2050 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dr. Xie (1270 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1430 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 9: BMoneyLess (450 in chips)
    nanaloo: posts small blind 25
    notyholez: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [2s 2d]
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: calls 50
    Dr. Xie: folds
    Joyleen: folds
    BMoneyLess: folds
    Goggen_S: folds
    Mystreau: folds
    nanaloo: calls 25
    notyholez: checks
    *** FLOP *** [2c 8s 5s]
    nanaloo: bets 100
    notyholez: folds
    Hero: calls 100
    *** TURN *** [2c 8s 5s] [9s]
    nanaloo: bets 100
    Hero: calls 100
    *** RIVER *** [2c 8s 5s 9s] [Qh]
    nanaloo: bets 100
    Hero: raises 100 to 200
    nanaloo: calls 100
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Hero: shows [2s 2d] (three of a kind, Deuces)
    nanaloo: mucks hand
    Hero collected 950 from pot


    [Tc 8h] UTG (M=34.00; F)

    -----Hand 5-----
    Hero's M = 34.00
    PokerStars Game #10700707087: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level III (25/50) - 2007/06/30 - 17:42:46 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: Goggen_S (450 in chips)
    Seat 3: nanaloo (1855 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (2955 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (2590 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2550 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dr. Xie (1220 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1430 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 9: BMoneyLess (450 in chips)
    Fivehole2006: posts small blind 25
    Hero: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Js Ad]
    Dr. Xie: folds
    Joyleen: folds
    BMoneyLess: folds
    Goggen_S: calls 50
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: calls 50
    Fivehole2006: calls 25
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5c Th 9s]
    Fivehole2006: checks
    Hero: checks
    Goggen_S: checks
    notyholez: checks
    *** TURN *** [5c Th 9s] [6s]
    Fivehole2006: bets 150
    Hero: folds
    Goggen_S: folds
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006 collected 200 from pot
    Fivehole2006: doesn't show hand


    [3s Jh] SB (M=33.33; f+f+f+c+r+f+F)
    [4c As] BU (M=33.00; f+f+c+f+f+F)
    [9d 5h] CO (M=33.00; c+c+r+F)
    [Jc Td] MP1 (M=16.50; f+f+F)
    [4c 6h] UTG+1 (M=16.50; f+F)
    [7d Th] UTG (M=16.50; F)
    [9d 3s] BB (M=16.50; f+p+f+f+f+F)
    [2d 7s] SB (M=15.83; f+f+f+r+F)
    [8h 2h] BU (M=15.50; f+c+c+F)
    [Jd Tc] CO (M=15.50; r+f+F)
    [Jh Ts] MP1 (M=15.50; f+F)
    [8d 9s] UTG (M=10.33; F)
    [Td 5h] BB (M=10.33; f+f+r+f+F)

    -----Hand 6-----
    Hero's M = 9.67
    PokerStars Game #10700826907: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:51:17 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2475 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (4080 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (3540 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2175 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1230 in chips)
    Hero: posts small blind 75
    Joyleen: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [8c 6c]
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: calls 150
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: calls 75
    Joyleen: checks
    *** FLOP *** [Qc 7d 9s]
    Hero: checks
    Joyleen: checks
    notyholez: bets 600
    Hero: folds
    Joyleen: folds
    notyholez collected 450 from pot



    -----Hand 7-----
    Hero's M = 9.00
    PokerStars Game #10700834429: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:51:49 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2475 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (4380 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (3540 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2025 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1080 in chips)
    Joyleen: posts small blind 75
    nanaloo: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Qh Ad]
    notyholez: calls 150
    Fivehole2006: calls 150
    Hero: raises 850 to 1000
    Joyleen: folds
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero collected 675 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand


    [8s 4h] CO (M=11.33; r+F)

    -----Hand 8-----
    Hero's M = 11.33
    PokerStars Game #10700848032: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:52:47 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2025 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (4830 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (3090 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2550 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (1005 in chips)
    notyholez: posts small blind 75
    Fivehole2006: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [As Jd]
    Hero: raises 450 to 600
    Joyleen: calls 600
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4c 9d 6c]
    Hero: bets 1950 and is all-in
    Joyleen: folds
    Hero collected 1425 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand



    -----Hand 9-----
    Hero's M = 15.00
    PokerStars Game #10700855453: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:53:18 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2025 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (4755 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (2940 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (3375 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (405 in chips)
    Fivehole2006: posts small blind 75
    Hero: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Jh Th]
    Joyleen: folds
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: calls 150
    Fivehole2006: calls 75
    Hero: checks
    *** FLOP *** [7c Ac 5c]
    Fivehole2006: checks
    Hero: checks
    notyholez: checks
    *** TURN *** [7c Ac 5c] [5s]
    Fivehole2006: bets 300
    Hero: folds
    notyholez: calls 300
    *** RIVER *** [7c Ac 5c 5s] [8d]
    Fivehole2006: bets 300
    notyholez: raises 900 to 1200
    Fivehole2006: folds
    notyholez collected 1650 from pot
    notyholez: shows [4c Kc] (a flush, Ace high)



    -----Hand 10-----
    Hero's M = 14.33
    PokerStars Game #10700865598: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:54:01 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2025 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (5655 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (2190 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (3225 in chips)
    Seat 8: Joyleen (405 in chips)
    Hero: posts small blind 75
    Joyleen: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ad 8s]
    nanaloo: calls 150
    notyholez: calls 150
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: raises 300 to 450
    Joyleen: calls 255 and is all-in
    nanaloo: raises 1575 to 2025 and is all-in
    notyholez: folds
    Hero: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9d Ks 8h]
    *** TURN *** [9d Ks 8h] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [9d Ks 8h 4c] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    nanaloo: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
    nanaloo collected 90 from side pot
    Joyleen: shows [3c 8c] (a pair of Eights)
    nanaloo collected 1365 from main pot



    -----Hand 11-----
    Hero's M = 12.33
    PokerStars Game #10700874925: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:54:41 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (3030 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (5505 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (2190 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2775 in chips)
    nanaloo: posts small blind 75
    notyholez: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [4c 4s]
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: raises 450 to 600
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: folds
    Hero collected 375 from pot
    Hero: doesn't show hand


    [2h 8s] UTG (M=13.33; F)
    [Th 7h] BB (M=13.33; f+f+r+F)
    [2s 7d] SB (M=9.50; f+f+F)
    [7d 2h] BU (M=9.17; r+F)
    [4d 7d] UTG (M=9.17; F)

    -----Hand 12-----
    Hero's M = 9.17
    PokerStars Game #10700905761: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/06/30 - 17:56:52 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2955 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (4705 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (3090 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2750 in chips)
    Fivehole2006: posts small blind 100
    Hero: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [8c Kh]
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: raises 200 to 400
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: calls 200
    *** FLOP *** [Ks Qh 6d]
    Hero: bets 900
    notyholez: raises 3100 to 4000
    Hero: folds
    notyholez collected 2700 from pot


    [Kd 9c] SB (M=4.83; r+f+F)
    [Jh 2h] BU (M=4.50; f+F)

    -----Hand 13-----
    Hero's M = 4.50
    PokerStars Game #10700920573: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/06/30 - 17:57:55 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (2655 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (6505 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (2990 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (1350 in chips)
    notyholez: posts small blind 100
    Fivehole2006: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Ac 9s]
    Hero: raises 1150 to 1350 and is all-in
    nanaloo: folds
    notyholez: folds
    Fivehole2006: calls 1150
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 8s Kc]
    *** TURN *** [Qs 8s Kc] [Qh]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 8s Kc Qh] [2c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Fivehole2006: shows [9d 9h] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
    Hero: shows [Ac 9s] (a pair of Queens)
    Fivehole2006 collected 2800 from pot
  2. #2
    Overall I think your play is OK, but I think you need to pay attention to postflop position when acting preflop. Hand 12 was a good (bad?) example of this. Also, see my comment on slowplaying - against calling stations (which most $6.50 players are) when you flop a set you want to play fast to get your money in, since they'll likely call. Also, once blinds hit 25/50 (definitely 50/100) don't raise more than 3x BB preflop.

    1. KK - definitely bet the turn, particularly with the K. I wouldn't give a free card here, I'd say you have the best hand here more often than not. If you check behind on the turn you have to just call the river.

    2. JTo - I think calling from the BB is OK with all those cold callers, but you're playing for 2 pair or better on the flop. Bit of a tough spot on the flop, I might fold it with two players (particularly the preflop raiser) still to act. That said, I don't think flat calling SB's flop bet is terrible but I prefer a fold here since you didn't hit 2 pair or better.

    3. 44 - You played fine obv, but wow that's a lot of limpers! Make sure to make a note on Fivehole that he's a donkey that bluffs with crap - useful if you come across him later.

    4. 22 - with blinds at 25/50 I tend to dump the smallest PPs from UTG+1, but if the table is pretty passive I guess limping isn't terrible. On the flop if you never ever slowplayed ever at low buyin SNGs with less than a flopped full house, I doubt you'd lose much EV. Why give a cheap card on the flop, particularly with the flush draw out there? I raise it to 300. On the turn with the third , I guess flat calling is OK but on the river, what's the point of minraising? Either you're well ahead and you should raise more, or you're well behind and you should just call for a cheap showdown.

    5. AJo - I guess checking preflop is OK, you don't want to build a big pot when you're OOP postflop.

    6. 86s - dump it preflop. Once blinds get this big, chip preservation is more important that 5:1 pot odds IMO.

    7. AQo - raising is the right idea, but I'd just shove it preflop. By raising half your stack, if one of them flat calls and you miss the flop you're in a bad spot.

    8. AJo - don't raise so much. Make it 400 to go, that is plenty - if you get shoved over by one of the big stacks and have to fold you saved yourself 200 valuable chips. As played, flop is obv fine. Joyleen is a grade-A DONKEY for calling off 60% of his/her stack preflop then folding the flop.

    10. A8o - just let it go from the SB. UTG+1 looks like a calling station, he/she won't fold for another 300 chips, leaving you to play a marginal hand from OOP postflop. Make a note on UTG that he/she limp/re-raises big pairs from UTG.

    11. 44 - again, 400 not 600 to go. Raising more than 3x BB once blinds hit 50/100 (arguably 25/50) is a leak IMO.

    12. K8o - foooooooooooooooooold preflop! You're playing OOP for the rest of the hand, you have a shit hand and you're up against a player who can put you out of the tourney on the bubble. On the flop, bet 500-600 not full pot, if opp shoves over you have to fold and you burned another 300-400 chips.

    13. A9o - I guess shoving is OK but it's only marginally +EV at all calling ranges. With antes it becomes an easy shove.
  3. #3
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    thanks for the comments. i agree on hand 4, especially since that player was pretty bad. on hand 11, i raised 3x, so i'm a little confused with your comment, or maybe i'm just senile. hand 12 was a disaster in retrospect, wish i had that one back. i did make notes on people during the tournament, always do, will add your comments to my brain. i've been in a rut...i had some good cards this game, hopefully next time i have them i will be itm.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by hitorque
    on hand 11, i raised 3x, so i'm a little confused with your comment, or maybe i'm just senile.
    -----Hand 11-----
    Hero's M = 12.33
    PokerStars Game #10700874925: Tournament #54223461, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit
    - Level V (75/150) - 2007/06/30 - 17:54:41 (ET)
    Condensed history provided by the Tournament Trimmer (v1.1.2w) from http://www.FlopTurnRiver.com
    Table '54223461 1' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 3: nanaloo (3030 in chips)
    Seat 4: notyholez (5505 in chips)
    Seat 5: Fivehole2006 (2190 in chips)
    Seat 6: Hero (2775 in chips)
    nanaloo: posts small blind 75
    notyholez: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [4c 4s]
    Fivehole2006: folds
    Hero: raises 450 to 600

    Looks like a 4x BB raise to me. Raising TO 400-450 is plenty here.
  5. #5
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    When people say a 3xBB raise, they actually mean raise to 3xBB, not raise 3xBB above what it costs to call.

    I got confused with that too.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    wouldn't that be a minraise though? 150 would be a limp, 300 would be a minraise? i'm confused. thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitorque
    wouldn't that be a minraise though? 150 would be a limp, 300 would be a minraise? i'm confused. thanks
    Yes, 150 is a call or limp, 300 is a min-raise (2xBB), and 450 is 3xBB. you raised 600, or 4xBB. When you pick an amount to raise to, that number is the total you're putting into the pot, counting what you need to call to enter the hand- so a 3xBB raise is calling the BB and then raising 2x the BB.
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    sorry brain cramp on my part. thanks.

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