Some low limit Turbos for review...

[CowbellGuy]

Hey all, I am new to turbos and a bunch of you gave me some advice in the other thread. So far I am still struggling with these... can anyone comment on my play so far? They are all relativly short. Thanks.

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[taipan168]

Posting one at a time might get you more replies

[badgers]

I'll do the first one, maybe someone else will have a look at the others.

Hand 1 - Bit of a hefty raise with AA?

5- Fold preflop, as played, it's very very aggressive with TPGK and stacks this deep. Any reads on villain? My problem is that AJ and JJ+ very much part of his range here.

7- Again I think this is a bit much. The river bet is full pot, which I think is too much, especially with 3 spades on board.

8 - Fold

9 - Either they're really tight or this is silly...

12 - I push

13 - Push

2h Ah SB (M = 4.91; f+f+f+F) WHY???

19 - Just push it.

2 4 SB (M = 6.18; f+f+f+F) Push

20 - Push

21 - Fold

22- HOORAY HE PUSHED FROM THE SB!!!

4 7 SB (M = 2.23; f+f+F) Nevermind he folded again

23 - Fine

When the effective stacks are <10BBs and it is folded to you on the SB, it is almost always +EV to push ATC

[bjsaust]

OK, I'll take my turn and do number 2.

Hand 1: I'm not a big fan of stealing this early, not sure risk/reward is worth it.

Hand 3: I'd bet this flop, if not definately the turn. Chances are you have best hand. Not a terrible thing to check down though.

Hand 5: I'd be tempted to raise this PF, it could just be a positional play and you have a premium hand.

Hand 7: Hmm, again I'm tempted to raise this. If we call we're probably going to be 4-way at which point we're really only playing for set value and we dont have the odds for that. Raise it up and try to get HU or take the pot now. Tough spot though, as you probably want to raise to say 700, meaning you only have 1100 behind which will be much less than the pot if you get a caller.

Hand 8: Fine, but I wouldnt go any lower than this for a steal from the CO.

Hand 9: Fold this. A6s is not good enough to play from the button during the bubble with a limper. As played should have raised to 400 PF. I guess you need to push that flop, but this is exactly why you dont do the steal in the first place, a large part of his range is Ax and most of them are ahead of yours.

[badgers]

Ok so im bored. Here's number 2

4 - I fold unless he's too tight.

6- Make flop bet a little more

7- Looks interesting. Read dependant, push is ok if they've been raising light. I guess with 2 opps and nearly 4-1 call and play for set/overpair value is OK.

9- is probs a fold pre, read dependant.

[badgers]

Seems we nearly commented on alternate hands!

OK, I'll take my turn and do number 2.

Hand 1: I'm not a big fan of stealing this early, not sure risk/reward is worth it.True, but K9 is an OK hand vs one opp.

Hand 3: I'd bet this flop, if not definately the turn. Chances are you have best hand. Not a terrible thing to check down though. Definately check it down. BPTK is terrible 4way.

Hand 5: I'd be tempted to raise this PF, it could just be a positional play and you have a premium hand.I don't think we can reraise as we don't want to have to call a shove

Hand 8: Fine, but I wouldnt go any lower than this for a steal from the CO. Agreed. I might even fold this depending on stats

[badgers]

Last one

2 - Bet flop - Middle pair heads up is goot.

3- Fold preflop

4 - Fold preflop

6- Don't minraise. Push over his raise, otherwise you leave yourself with a pitiful stack,

9- don't worry about it.

[bjsaust]

Hand 3: We have middle pair on the flop, and having checked in from BB we can have ATC. A bet on that flop is believable that we have hit hard. Even TP might fold to us. Even if called and the flop and then checked down we stand a good chance of winning but the pot is now bigger.

That said, I dont mind checking it down. I've just finished HoH 1, so am chock full of 'lead out to find where you are and get money if you're ahead' theories, that are more MTT than STT oriented.

Hand 5 I think we can raise to say 450 and still get out if shoved. Might be a bit aggressive with such little blinds though.




Hand 4 is an interesting one. We've stolen from Opp already, so have reason to believe our steal is OK here. My concern is, if we start making a habit of stealing from here when the blinds are small, we risk having less respect when we continue stealing when blinds are big. I prefer to save up my leeway for when blinds are worth more.

[badgers]

Last time I checked, a 5 was lower than a 6 or 8. I'm not even betting middle pair top kicker though against 3 players.

Stealing constantly from SB can really tilt the BB into making a terrible call. It's one of the few times that table image matters at low levels.

[bjsaust]

Wow at hand 9 on 3rd. What a donkey.

These are the guys that win you tournaments, but occassionally they get lucky. Take the long term view and be thankful that you get to play against people like this.

[rubixstreub]

Here's my take on Tourney #1: haven't peaked at what Badgers wrote... so interested to see where we compare.

Hand 4: (KJs) Not sure how I feel about a raise here, especially from the SB. I think you’re safer calling this one and playing from there. As played the c/f is correct.

Hand 5: (KJo) Against an UTG raise I fold this here. I like your flop play… Opp should have folded or pushed instead of the donk reraise.

Hand 6: Fold

Hand 7: If this is a blind steal, reraise. As played I’d open the flop and see what he does, c/c tells you nothing and the later streets are going to get real expensive with middle pair. Don’t like the river bet, I could still see a weak ace who got scared by the flush draw completion calling that.

Hand 8: (A5o) is little thin to raise UTG+1 here, IMO

Hand 9: (A9o), same as hand 8

Hand 12: Good fold

Hand 13: (A4o) Push this from the SB

(A2s) again, folded to you in SB… I push this

Hand 19: (KJo) This is push or fold at 9BB. You’ve been pretty active- 5 handed, UTG+1 I’d let this go.

Hand 20: Yes, he’s an idiot

Hand 21: (Q9o) against a raise… FOLD

Hand 22: There you go, push the BB

(74o) man, you’re stack is getting destroyed and folded to you in SB… this might actually make sense to push a pray.

Hand 23: (Q6s) Don’t have much choice here

You play a little looser than I would early and a bit tighter than I would late (especially from the SB). With those adjustments I think you’d find yourself with more chips and your late game wouldn’t be so crippled.

[bjsaust]

Last time I checked, a 5 was lower than a 6 or 8. I'm not even betting middle pair top kicker though against 3 players.

Man, wtf was I seeing at the time .