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  1. #1

    Default $11 Big Laydown. Thoughts on this hand?

    I normally fold KQ here PF but sooted I couldn't resist.
    No reads, do you fold the Flop? Turn?
    Flop looks alot like a made flush.

    Absolute Poker
    No Limit Holdem Tournament
    Blinds: t10/t20
    8 players
    Converter

    Seat 1 - TWOKICKER ($1490 in chips)
    Seat 2 - CRIMINAL_D ($1600 in chips)
    Seat 3 - BIG_SUGAR11 ($1570 in chips)
    Seat 4 - TIKAANI ($1390 in chips)
    Seat 6 - GKEBS ($1410 in chips)
    Seat 7 - MEALEYKID22 ($1510 in chips)
    Seat 8 - JONAH HEX ($3030 in chips)
    Seat 9 - ARCHER2204 ($1500 in chips)

    Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with :kh :qh
    UTG folds, Hero calls t20 (pot was t30), 3 folds, Button calls t20 (pot was t50), SB folds, BB checks.

    Flop: :2c :5c :qc (t70, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets t60, Button raises to t120, BB calls t120 (pot was t250), Hero calls t60 (pot was t370).

    Turn: :qd (t430, 3 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets t160, BB raises to t1960, Hero folds, Button calls all-in t1110.
    Uncalled bets: t690 returned to BB.

    River: :ac (t2970, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2970)


    Results:
    Final pot: t2970
  2. #2
    Yeah this is fine, gf. Looks a lot loke a monster, I doubt you beat both opps and there's not a lot of dead money in the pot.

    nh
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    Wow, nice fold, tough hand.

    Result = Trip queens (weaker kicker) v's flush? Or a set in there somewhere?
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  4. #4
    I might have raised 3/4 - pot on the flop, after button raised it to 120 to see where you were.

    At this level with 2 AI in front of you I think it's a fold. That said.....you may be looking at someone slow playing KK or AA or even AQ. If they flopped the flush you still have outs to the full house.

    But as they say.....if you NEVER fold the winning hand, you are calling too much.
    It's not how many pots you win, it's what's in them that counts.
  5. #5
    BB had the made nut flush on the flop and the other guy had 55 for the full house.
  6. #6
    does anyone else prefer a standard 3xBB raise PF? maybe its my ring game nature but i feel if u play KQs in EP you need to raise to eliminate some garbage hands and help you determine where u are at. As played, good fold.
    ndultimate.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by PapalRage
    does anyone else prefer a standard 3xBB raise PF? maybe its my ring game nature but i feel if u play KQs in EP you need to raise to eliminate some garbage hands and help you determine where u are at. As played, good fold.
    At SNGs, due to the much shallower effective stacks even at Level 1 (75 BB stacks vs 100 BBs plus you can't reload), I always fold KQs in EP, it's just not worth it. In my earlier days I lost stacks and stacks and stacks of chips playing KQo/KQs in EP when the flop came K/Q high.
  8. #8
    I would fold on the flop.

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