flopped a boat vs aggro...slowplay?

[benny999]

villain (25/20, seems aggro) 3bets quite a bit, and i usually fold but sometimes 4 bet. i don't think i've called a 3bet before.

at first i was planning to c/r on a non-ace flop, but then i figure i might play TT-QQ like this and he's more likely betting than calling.

is there a definite better way to play here?

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2./$4.
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $410.20
CO: $833
Button: $361.70
SB: $396
BB: $187.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $14, CO raises to $48, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K 2 2 ($102, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $75, Hero calls.

Turn: J ($252, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: J ($252, 2 players)
Hero checks (~$300 left)

[|~|ypermegachi]

push!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dsaxton]

push!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What hands do you think call a push that don't bet when checked to? If this guy is aggressive enough, I think checking and trying to induce a bet is not a bad play. If it gets checked through, it's unlikely you missed much value by checking. It also sends a message that you are capable of checking a nut hand to him repeatedly to let him hang himself, which should slow him down.

[|~|ypermegachi]

overbet = screw you, i have an A and i'm not splitting this pot with you....PSYCH!

[benny999]

dsaxton, good points on metagame.

but ya if he has AK/AA/Jx and bluffs he should bet the river, right?

also, what do you think of sticking with the flop check-raise plan?

[|~|ypermegachi]

ok, let's break it down. i always say overbet push when i get the opportunity.

what's the range of hands do you put him on in a light 3bet? all pairs? AK/AQ/KQ?

[dsaxton]

what's the range of hands do you put him on in a light 3bet? all pairs? AK/AQ/KQ?

Um, no. The range you describe is fairly conservative. If he is 3-betting "light," then his range is clearly much wider.

[benny999]

ok, let's break it down. i always say overbet push when i get the opportunity.

what's the range of hands do you put him on in a light 3bet? all pairs? AK/AQ/KQ?

i'm thinking it's the better part of his full 3-bet range here.
definite hands will be TT+/AQ+...but stuff like QJs, 77, etc are possible too, so i'm not sure what his exact range is.

[|~|ypermegachi]

the range i described is 9.5%.
once you add AJ/KJ/QJ you get 13%
JT+ you get 17.9%

what exactly does 3betting light mean? does it mean 90% of his 20% raising range? or 10%?

also, realize that even with open pushing, for him to call is just a little less than 2:1.