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  1. #1

    Default Rape and Pillage to 4k

    i will start this off with a little history, I've been playing poker for a few years, played online some last summer, made around 1k after being up to 3k at one point. after i lost what i had on the site (i previously cashed out 1k + my original buy in), i didn't play at all during the school year.

    3 weeks ago, i bought in to full tilt for $200 and currently have 908.45 after clearing the full 200 dollar bonus (abnormal BR increase because i won 400 by taking first in a 5+.50 MTT i played for fun). i am playing 4-5 FR 50nl tables right now and i am determined to not make the same mistakes as last summer (moving up too fast, tilting hard after a few big losses, spending 200 dollars on jewelry for a girl i didn't want to keep dating, etc..).

    i feel like writing my progress on this site will help me stay disciplined and true to my standard Tag strategy (and i won a hundred bucks tonight while reading Da Goat's operation 10k). the current plan is:

    1.) play FR 50 nl till BR, including bonus but not initial buyin which will be cashed out soon, reaches 1,500.
    2.) move up to playing 2 tables FR 100 nl
    3.) become a winning 4 table player at FR 100 nl
    4.) increase BR to 4k
    5. ) move up to 200 nl

    those are the goals as of right now, the 'timetable' to acheive goal #1 is by the end of June. i can play about 1k hands a day on average right now.

    other things of note:
    -i live in the US so bonus whoring isnt a good option
    -i dont currently have PT so i dont have a great way to moniter my play
    (i am seriously considering getting this soon though)

    Any and all comments are appreciated.
  2. #2
    today went very well on the card tables after a rough start. i played 733 hands in my session ending with my BR at 1060.85, had to stop short of 1k hands because i felt like i lost some focus after a few big wins near the end..and somebody came to view the house (which is for sale). i refrained from making any crazy plays, though that analysis may be results oriented. i c-bet about as much as i normally do, but i bet a little more money than i normally do after raising pre (tried betting like 4/5ths of the pot instead of 2/3rds).

    like i said earlier, the start was not good. here is my third hand at one of the eventual 5 tables.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($75.95)
    BB ($136.30)
    UTG ($44.10)
    UTG+1 ($55.60)
    MP1 ($51.75)
    Hero ($49.50)
    MP3 ($110.40)
    CO ($9.90)
    Button ($92.90)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, A.
    UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 5 folds, UTG calls $1.75.

    Flop: ($5.25) J, 5, Q (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG calls $5.25.

    Turn: ($15.75) 2 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10.

    River: ($35.75) J (2 players)
    UTG bets $26.6 (All-In), Hero calls $26.60.

    Final Pot: $88.95

    Results in white below:
    UTG has Qd Qh (full house, queens full of jacks).
    Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and jacks).
    Outcome: UTG wins $88.95.


    i feel like i should have for sure folded to his river all-in looking back on it. if he had ONE Q he woulda checked river hoping im scared of the J and check behind. i think i just got way too attached to my AA here and i didnt really give myself enough time to think about it (i didnt snap call but called pretty fast).

    however, i rebounded with some big wins and a lot of little ones. the following hand was against a very aggressive opponent and i had been taking down a fair number of pots without being called.
    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP3 ($52.50)
    Hero ($49.85)
    Button ($56.35)
    SB ($72)
    BB ($50)
    UTG ($148.65)
    UTG+1 ($38.50)
    MP1 ($47.25)
    MP2 ($60.95)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q.
    UTG calls $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.75.

    Flop: ($5.25) 3, 3, 6 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $8, Hero raises to $19, UTG folds.

    Final Pot: $32.25

    i felt like his min bet was very weak. no way he had a 3 or 66 and would min reraise there for how aggressive he was., but this could have been too aggro if he played back at me with something like 88. after he folded i showed my hand to hopefully put him on tilt/ get some action from the other players (i hadnt been called to the river yet). i feel like i may be too results oriented here, if he calls/ raises i feel like an idiot, but since he folded i think i made the right play. was this the right play?

    this next hand is at the same table, maybe a rotation or two after i showed that bluff.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP2 ($45)
    Hero ($76.80)
    Button ($51.80)
    SB ($43.75)
    BB ($58.55)
    UTG ($43.45)
    MP1 ($43.20)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 2, 2.
    UTG raises to $3.3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.30, 1 fold, SB calls $3.05, 1 fold.

    Flop: ($10.40) 7, 2, 3 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG bets $8.15, Hero raises to $20, SB folds, UTG folds.

    Final Pot: $38.55

    he claimed to have an overpair later, but regardless of what he had i think i lost some value here. is there a different line i could have taken?

    last hand to analyze from this session comes from the same table, same opponent (i didnt show him my set from before)

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG+1 ($31.45)
    Hero ($90)
    MP2 ($51.65)
    MP3 ($49.95)
    CO ($56.95)
    Button ($122.65)
    SB ($48.25)
    BB ($40.45)
    UTG ($49.65)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, Q.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 4 folds, SB raises to $5.25, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $2.75.

    Flop: ($11.25) A, 3, 2 (2 players)
    SB bets $8.3, Hero calls $8.30.

    Turn: ($27.85) 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB raises to $34.95 (All-In), Hero calls $24.95.

    River: ($97.75) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $97.75

    Results in white below:
    SB has Js Jc (two pair, jacks and twos).
    Hero has Ah Qh (two pair, aces and twos).
    Outcome: Hero wins $97.75.


    here is where my aggressive image paid off. preflop when he reraised me small i put him on a decent PP, but called hoping to hit an A. the odds of me flopping an A and him having AA were very small, and i thought it more likely that he would have 99-KK if an A came. if a Q hit i would have been put in a tough spot, and i didnt think he had AK because i saw him just call a raise with AKs on the button before. when he bet out the flop strong i thought he might actually have AK, which is why i didnt raise. after he checked the turn, i thought for sure he didnt have AK, because he wouldnt want to give me a free card and from the chat the table thought of me as a 'lucky player' despite me just playing a standard tag..(one shown bluff goes a long way i guess). obviously, this is much easier to figure out now since ive seen his cards...but at the time i put him on KK. i figured at best its 50/50 between AK and KK so i decided to call his push. thoughts on playing this hand this way?

    another hand of note was when i limped with 76s in the cutoff, bb min raised, i called. flopped the nut straight and he eventually pushed on the flop with KK...didnt post the hand cause there is no real strategy discussion, just a bozo playing KK 'tricky'
    ndultimate.
  3. #3
    so the second session of yesterday and early today did not go well. I ended up losing around 50 over 1k hands and my BR finished at 1,009.15. I definitely tilted a bit after flopping a set in a huge pot...only to run into a set of Aces...here is that hand, i dont think i could have folded but ill post it anyways...

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($19.95)
    SB ($101.80)
    BB ($26.25)
    UTG ($8.25)
    UTG+1 ($47.70)
    MP1 ($35.10)
    Hero ($65.10)
    CO ($54.50)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A.
    1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, SB calls $2, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.75.

    Flop: ($7.25) K, J, 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7.25, SB raises to $14.5, UTG+1 calls $14.50, Hero raises to $32.25, SB calls $10.50, UTG+1 raises to $59.95 (All-In), Hero raises to $95.1 (All-In), SB calls $37.85.

    Turn: ($225.15) 6 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($225.15) Q (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $225.15
    Main Pot: $187.10, between SB, UTG+1 and Hero.
    Pot 2: $35.79, between SB and Hero.
    Pot 3: $32.25, returned to SB.

    what do you think the correct way to play that is on the flop? i had been playing with the SB for a while on two tables and he played a ton of draws. i feel like i overplayed the hand, but when should i fold?

    again i sorta rebounded nicely to end with my BR over 1k, but i need to work on letting strong hands go in the face of reraises/aggression. Any advice on how i can train myself to be capable of folding good hands in tough spots would be appreciated.
    ndultimate.
  4. #4
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    You keep getting good odds, but I think you have to fold to the 4 bet. There are a ton of draws out there, and your hand only has a small chance of being best by the river. Plus UTG+1 check/calling the 3 bet has to be suspicious. I guess you could call or fold, but no one is folding to your reraise, even if you pushed....
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  5. #5
    tonight went much better with no real big losses and a few nice wins. my BR ended tonight at 1151.25 so im getting pretty close to the first goal of 1.5k. i only played about 400 hands or so because im feeling tired and really just didnt feel focused at all. its hard to think i played either poor or well because i wasnt in many tough situations and hit some nice hands tonight. first big hand to note was about 100 hands in or so. up until this hand every i think i had missed one c-bet and one a few small pots.


    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($31.70)
    BB ($32.15)
    UTG ($35.05)
    MP1 ($27.45)
    MP2 ($26.40)
    Hero ($56.30)
    Button ($35.80)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K.
    2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, SB calls $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.75.

    Flop: ($7.25) 7, 5, 3 (3 players)
    SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5, MP2 folds.

    Turn: ($17.25) 4 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($17.25) T (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $24, Hero raises to $48, SB calls $0.44 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $89.70

    Results in white below:
    SB has 9h 9d (one pair, nines).
    Hero has Ad Kd (flush, ace high).
    Outcome: Hero wins $89.70.


    obviously this hand looks rather simple, but my check on the turn was sorta interesting. after i saw i hit, i clicked the box for auto check (not check/fold). i dont know if my 'immeadiate check' made him think i was bluffing on the river or not...but at the time i thought it would. obviously this 'tactic' cant be used every time you have the nuts because an observant player will pick up on it. not much else to say about that hand other than $_$.
    next hand is against a complete fish...

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    BB ($34.80)
    UTG ($65.40)
    UTG+1 ($51.90)
    Hero ($57.25)
    MP2 ($169.35)
    CO ($61.05)
    Button ($29.85)
    SB ($21.55)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T, A.
    UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, SB calls $2, 1 fold, UTG folds.

    Flop: ($5.50) 8, 6, 9 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4.

    Turn: ($13.50) Q (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks.

    River: ($13.50) J (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6.

    Final Pot: $25.50

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Tc Ac (straight, queen high).
    SB has Jh Kc (one pair, jacks).
    Outcome: Hero wins $25.50.


    this hand was a c-bet gone wrong gone very good. i also made a note on how much of an idiot the villian here is. so, A10s may not be a raising hand in MP1, but i felt like if i was gonna play it i should raise. could be a results oriented analysis though. im sorta curious about what others think about my line. i c-bet the flop because i didnt know much about the player and i have no reason to not c-bet. after he called and the Q hit, i thought about firing again. i decided not to because i thought the Q could only help him (i put him on J10 or Q10) and i sorta gave up the hand...until i hit the str8. i figured he couldnt have K10 because calling with an inside str8 draw would be stupid on the flop (he turned out to have less though...) so i bet about half the pot...i didnt think he would call the other half of his remaining stack without the 10 (who knows though, he was awful). any thoughts?

    the last hand im showing tonight was my second to last on that table because i had decided to stop. i obviously have the turn decision made simple for me, but my play on the flop is what im curious about:

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($37.10)
    SB ($25.45)
    BB ($84.80)
    UTG ($71.75)
    Hero ($67.75)
    MP1 ($66.55)
    MP2 ($24.55)
    MP3 ($17.25)
    CO ($19.25)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 6, 6.
    1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 raises to $1.5, CO calls $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1, MP2 folds.

    Flop: ($5.75) 6, Q, 3 (3 players)
    Hero bets $5.75, MP3 folds, CO calls $5.75.

    Turn: ($17.25) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $12 (All-In), Hero calls $12.

    River: ($41.25) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $41.25

    Results in white below:
    Hero has 6s 6h (full house, sixes full of threes).
    CO has Jc Qd (two pair, queens and threes).
    Outcome: Hero wins $41.25.


    now, i decided to bet out strong here because i obviously didnt want a free flush card to come, but if the villian RR AI like he probably should have (if he was playing that hand after the flop), would i have had to call? if he pushes the flop, i think i would call assuming he has top two or top pair + high flush draw? i think a small flush would also push in that spot, but i think i have to call with pot odds. other question, how would the hand change if i dont hit a full house on the turn? on the turn with no full house, do i put him all in or check/ call/fold? with his small stack it would be hard for me to justify folding, but thats enough hypothetical situations for this hand. any thoughts?

    other note: i have decided once i hit my first goal of 1.5k i'm getting poker tracker, maybe beforehand if i plateau.
    ndultimate.
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    You can bet turn in hand 1 against most opps. Trickiness is overrated at these levels.

    Hand 2 is fine. I don't mind limping ATs in MP1 either, but raising is good if you can't get married to it posrflop. Nice river for you there....

    Hand 3 if he pushes is an instacall. You have outs to fill up. I probably bet turn as well, even without a boat, and let him call off his stack.
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  7. #7
    thanks for the advice cardsman. had another good but short session this morning. after around 225 hands my BR is at 1297.90. another session with no real big losses, only a few c-bets called down. im finding it hard to keep playing to 1k hands when i win big early in the session, so that is something i need to work on later today/ the rest of the week. biggest score of the morning was about 100 hands in against an opponent who was obviously tilting. the villian in the following two hands was very aggressive and had just lost a $180 pot to a flush card on the river...which is why i played the first hand against him like i did:

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($28.40)
    UTG+1 ($182.15)
    MP1 ($33.50)
    MP2 ($68.45)
    CO ($50)
    Button ($59.45)
    SB ($61.20)
    Hero ($49.65)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T, K.
    UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $2.25, 2 folds, SB calls $2, Hero calls $1.75, UTG folds.

    Flop: ($7.25) J, 2, 8 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $7.25, SB folds, Hero raises to $47.4 (All-In), MP2 folds.

    Final Pot: $61.90

    Results in white below:
    No showdown. Hero wins $61.90.


    i called pre because the villian had raised about 6 hands in a row and c-bet strong anytime he was called pre. when i had the K high flush draw, i thought about betting into him, but decided that he would likely raise me with any two and would give me less of a chance to make him fold with a push over the top. this was a very aggressive play that i dont normally make, but i felt that since he likely had shit, he wouldnt be able to call off his stack. even if he did i probably had at least 12 outs, but i was really looking for a fold here. if he calls and wins im kicking myself, but looking back i feel like it was the right play unless he was on such tilt he would call with bottom pair or something. any thoughts?

    the next hand was about 3 hands later on the same table, and was basically perfect timing. the villian did not raise all three hands but still seemed to be tilting.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($27.40)
    BB ($182.15)
    UTG ($33.50)
    UTG+1 ($55.95)
    MP1 ($49.50)
    MP2 ($50)
    MP3 ($59.45)
    CO ($62.85)
    Hero ($60.60)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4.
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.75, 2 folds, CO calls $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($6) 4, 3, 6 (4 players)
    UTG+1 bets $2.5, CO calls $2.50, Hero raises to $7.5, UTG+1 raises to $15, CO folds, Hero raises to $66.35 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $41.70 (All-In).

    Turn: ($131.55) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($131.55) Q (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $131.55

    Results in white below:
    UTG+1 has Ad Ac (two pair, aces and threes).
    Hero has 4c 4h (full house, fours full of threes).
    Outcome: Hero wins $131.55.


    when the co called the bet on the flop i decided i had to raise, and most likely would have anyways on that drawy board. also, looking back, the villian's small bet on the flop should have let me know that he had a decent hand this time, because he bet big before when i was able to make him fold. i didnt pick up on this at the time, but when he 3-bet it pre, i decided to push like i had a few hands earlier. i figured he wouldnt want to be 'pushed around' again but this hand basically plays itself. how should my line change against a player not on tilt? his 3-bet sorta screams overpair so against a non-tilting player should i call the 3-bet on the flop and let him push on the turn?

    other than those two hands i won a big hand with KK against a JJ where the money went in pre. the villian in that hand limp reraised from UTG so i thought he might have AA, but i dont think i would ever be able to fold KK pre in 50nl. overall a profitable but short session, and im hoping to sneak in a few more hands after work today. getting close to that goal of 1.5k.
    ndultimate.
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    I like hand 1 given the read.

    On a drawy board, always play your sets fast, tilting player or not. I learned this the hard way....
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  9. #9
    i dont have much time tonight but ill give a quick update. the last two sessions have been crazy. a lot of huge pots and crazy swings. overall the BR is now at 1454.25 but it should be much higher. i hit a few sets against overpairs and nut flushes against K high flushes, dont have the time to give the hand history. i did play very poorly at times, second barrelling against idiots who arent aware enough to give respect (top pair with a 10 kicker is the nuts right?). i also made a few horrible plays with QQ and J10 suited. i reraised my stack dead in both of those hands. QQ hand i reraised a lag pre and he called, 3 diamonds flop, i bet strong, he calls. turn is a blank, i push...he calls with a str8 flush...J10s hand i called my stack off with the 3rd highest flush...to get nutted...i think some of those bad plays may be because i was playing too many tables so im considering moving back down to 4 tables. most of the time i can 6 table fine but if im involved in a few big hands i cant focus on all of them. thoughts?

    other cool thing was when i was 6 tabling i had AA on 3 tables at once...to win the blinds on all 3...>_<
    $50 more till the shots at 100 nl commence.
    ndultimate.
  10. #10
    was gone all weekend so i didnt play much at all. however, on thursday and monday i managed to essentially blow around 300 dollars of my BR. i had a few bad beats but i know i also played awful. i dont have the time to give hand histories but my major problem is trying to win every damn pot i am involved in. i dont know if im just bored or what but i think im going to take a little break because i need some serious work on my discipline. i know i can beat 50 nl easily if i play my game, but i just play like a tard at times and i need to figure out why...anyone have advice on how to stay disciplined?
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    You need to learn to walk away when you feel yourself getting undisciplined. As soon as you hear yourself saying stuff like "I know I shouldnt but.." or "I'm probably beat, but...", etc, make a concious effort to rein yourself in. If you cant, and you find you're still using that kind of self-talk, click the sitting out button and go grab a drink, or do some stretches or something. If you sit back down and its still happenning, its time to close it down and go do something else.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  12. #12
    yea, i have definitely heard myself say some things like that...and ignored them...my personal favorite was on a hand where i had QQ with an A and K on the flop and i paused and looked away from the screen as i three bet the flop all-in...so, i think im gonna take a few days off FR and maybe play a little 6-max tonight but maybe no poker at all, i dont want to play if im not having fun playing good poker, and apparently that is part of the problem.
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  13. #13
    Got back on track today. I played about 700 hands of 6-max 50 nl working my BR back to 1335.85 i found the 6 max to be more entertaining but i dont know if it is just momentary inclination or if i actually like 6-max better. im going away again this weekend so hopefully that will help me avoid getting bored and making bad plays...no specific HH tonight, i hit a few sets and got bad off by TPTK. Any advice for which direction i should go in (6-max or FR or both) would be appreciated.
    ndultimate.
  14. #14
    so things went very well again today playing 6-max. My BR is now at 1620 (check out the sweet graphic thing in my sig now I also bought PT and have been kinda fooling around with that. Right now i have 837 6-max hands and my BB/100 is about 42....obviously not sustainable but ill take it for now...so...i have hit my first original goal to hit 1.5k, but i dont know if i should start taking shots at 100 nl yet. I also dont know if i should take shots at 6-max or FR...any advice on this topic would be appreciated. Here is one big hand from today's 6-max session that i may have misplayed. I am going to hide results for a few days to get hopefully a more unbiased opinion.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($32.35)
    CO ($50)
    Hero ($62.55)
    SB ($86.90)
    BB ($62)
    UTG ($44.50)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, T.
    1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, Hero calls $1, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50.

    Flop: ($5) 6, 9, K (5 players)
    SB bets $5, BB folds, MP folds, CO calls $5, Hero calls $5.

    Turn: ($20) A (3 players)
    SB bets $20, CO calls $20, Hero raises to $56.55 (All-In), SB folds, CO calls $24 (All-In).

    River: ($140.55) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $140.55[/img]

    I didnt want to fold the button with A10o to a min raise, but thought that RR would not be a very good play. As i said i didnt know much about this player so i decided to just call. When the SB led into the PFR and the PFR almost insta called, i put the SB on a KQ type of hand and the PFR on a JJ with a diamond type of hand. I thought about raising, but decided that since one of them would likely call, i didnt have much FE, this may have been a mistake/ too passive. I also sorta had the plan to bet hard on the turn if it was checked around, because i thought my flat call behind the PFR would indicate a pretty strong hand, possibly a flopped flush. When i hit the A i was basically ahead of anything i could out them on besides a flopped flush or maybe an AQo with the Q of diamonds or a set. i didnt think a set would fire again against two calls on the flop or if the PFR had one he would RR on the flop. thoughts?

    other than that big hand i didnt really have many questions about my play, i hit a few sets and won with them, as well as winning 50ish with AQ against a Q7 when the other two Qs were on board. oh, and my PT stats for 6-max over my very small sample is VP$P of 26, PFR of 18. These numbers may be very skewed by the run of good cards ive had so...they basically mean nothing, thought i would just share them cause i can now...any advice is appreciated.
    ndultimate.
  15. #15
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    If you're enjoying and doing well at 6-max, I'd settle in a play a bunch of hands at 50NL 6-max before moving up. You still only have 15 buyins for 100NL which is on the low side, and you dont know if you do well at 6-max or just been on a lucky streak yet.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
  16. #16
    Played a lot of hands in the last few days, with some big swings which i think is to be expected at 6-max. My Br is at 1580 currently, so ive gone back a bit. However, i was back down around 1300 at one point of the week so im not too unhappy with my status...I got outdrawn a few times, but also made some very bad plays. I have some serious work to do on my postflop play. I have been losing far too much money with just top pair.

    Another big problem in my 6-max game i think is calling too many raises either in the BB or on the button with hands like QJ, J10s, etc.. calling with these hands has got me in a lot of tough situations and lost me money. PT stats for just over 6k hands are 22.5/15.4 with a 4.01/100 win rate. AF is 7 on the flop, 4.37 on the turn, 2.58 on the river. How do those numbers look? Ill try to post some hands later from today's session after i play.
    ndultimate.
  17. #17
    I decided that I dont want to play just 6-max, so i think im going to split time between FR and 6-max by weeks. I feel like playing just one or the other will limit my development as a player. So, yesterday i played about 1.5k hands of FR and my BR is at 1652.90. I was up over 17 at one point, but got stacked when i got my money in pre with AA against QQ. This hand makes me love playing poker:

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($47.75)
    MP3 ($42.90)
    CO ($18.35)
    Button ($99.60)
    SB ($63.75)
    BB ($39.60)
    UTG ($43.90)
    UTG+1 ($19.50)
    MP1 ($97.25)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, T.
    UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, CO calls $2.25, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.75.

    Flop: ($7.50) J, K, Q (3 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $4, CO raises to $10, UTG folds, Hero raises to $20, CO raises to $26.1 (All-In), Hero calls $0.10.

    Turn: ($53.70) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($53.70) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $53.70

    Results in white below:
    Hero has As Td (straight, ace high).
    CO has 3c 2s (two pair, kings and queens).
    Outcome: Hero wins $53.70.


    Yep, thats right, he tried to bluff me for another .10 with 3 high. I might take a shot at 100 FR today, so we'll see how that goes.
    ndultimate.
  18. #18
    Played roughly 5oo hands at 100 FR today and it went pretty well. Ended up plus 40 at that level and the BR is at 1715 overall. I got set over setted in my first 70 hands or so but bounced back with some nice pots with AK. a few hundred hands in this hand occurred against an apparently solid player (16/7 over 133 hands):

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($96.50)
    Button ($112.25)
    SB ($69.85)
    BB ($65.05)
    UTG ($95.50)
    Hero ($109.05)
    MP1 ($68.80)
    MP2 ($163)
    MP3 ($136.60)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, Q.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $12, 5 folds, Hero calls $8.50.

    Flop: ($25.50) 6, J, T (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $25.5, Hero folds.

    Final Pot: $51

    Im pretty sure he didnt have AK, and any pocket pair that would 3-bet has me beat here (except the unlikely other two Qs). is this line way to tight/passive?

    Overall, i felt it was a good day at the tables, and i would been up much more at 50nl if not for a brutal AA vs AK outdraw where he decided to open push for his stack after calling a 3-bet pre and hit runner flush..wheee...
    other sorta poker related question, what should i do when auto-import gets an error in PT? i have been 'purging all errors' but doesnt that not put those hands into the database? i think my money won stats are about 80 dollars off and i think this may be the cause...(all hands where someone requests 'time' come with an error)
    ndultimate.
  19. #19
    i have been pretty busy lately with non poker stuff, but when i have played ive done pretty well. i dont think anyone reads this so im just gonna say: BR is at 1957, been killing 50nl FR lately, running at 11BB/100 for the last 3k hands. someone respond if they actually want hands, thoughts, etc...
    ndultimate.
  20. #20
    still running very hot at 50nl, been playing 3 tables of 50nl with one 100nl table the past couple days. 100 FR doesnt seem very tough, but i still get way too emotionally attached when i win/ lose a big pot, which cant be good. Been winning at 6 BB/ 100 at 100nl for over 1k hands though...so not too disapointed with my results. BR up to 2203.95, so im making good progress to my goal. Im fairly certain im just writing this for myself so i am going to neglect HH's unless someone says they want to see them....
    ndultimate.
  21. #21
    Almost completely playing at 100nl now. Only time ill play 50nl FR is when the 100nl tables are full/ full of 400+ stacks. BR is at 2554 although i withdrew 1k to just put into a 'real' bank account. I still consider it part of my BR for this operation though. Im comfortable at 100nl and i think my play is adapting to the differences. Players are overall better but there are still plenty of atrocious donks to hand me money. Hopefully i can keep playing well and stay focused every time i play.
    ndultimate.
  22. #22
    Had a decent day today but it could have been much better. First session of the day i was up 2 buyins at 100nl, second session i got outdrawn like crazy. BR finished at 2750 with the help of a 4th place finish in the FTR500. i was chip leader with 6 left though, then ran cold till i busted. im not a great tourny player so im not too unhappy. i think this weekend im going to play a bunch more donkaments because i will have the time and i think im getting burned out of cash.
    ndultimate.
  23. #23
    Had a very good weekend results-wise. I deposited 500 into AP to try and bonus whore a little bit but found that even though the bonus will take a long time to clear, the players there are awful. Ive run that up to about 950 over about 1k hands so thats nice. Ran good at FT too winning around 350 over the last few days despite dropping around 100 in donkament buyins (i make too many cash style decisions) . Overall i believe my BR is around 3300ish and i feel that as long as i stay focused ill hit my goal of 4k soon. Posting a few big money winning hands.

    This villian had 2 hands previously pushed pre with 1010 and cracked AA so i didnt think he was very good at all, this proved it:

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($50)
    Button ($149.55)
    SB ($150.15)
    BB ($20.70)
    UTG ($28)
    UTG+1 ($133)
    MP1 ($97.50)
    Hero ($89.75)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, A.
    2 folds, MP1 calls $1, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, SB calls $5.50, 1 fold, MP1 calls $5.

    Flop: ($19.50) Q, 8, 5 (3 players)
    SB bets $5, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $20, SB raises to $40, Hero raises to $103.75 (All-In), SB calls $48.75.

    Turn: ($212) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($212) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $212

    Results in white below:
    SB has Ks Ad (high card, ace).
    Hero has Qc Ah (one pair, queens).
    Outcome: Hero wins $197. SB wins $15.


    Same donk villian, 3 hands later:

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($48.50)
    MP2 ($149.55)
    MP3 ($101.50)
    CO ($19.20)
    Button ($28)
    SB ($99)
    BB ($133)
    UTG ($91.50)
    Hero ($185)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 2 folds, MP3 calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 3 folds.

    Flop: ($12) 2, 6, Q (3 players)
    Hero bets $12, MP3 calls $12, CO folds.

    Turn: ($36) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $169.5 (All-In), MP3 calls $86 (All-In).

    River: ($291.50) K (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $291.50

    Results in white below:
    Hero has Ah As (one pair, aces).
    MP3 has 5h 2h (one pair, twos).
    Outcome: Hero wins $291.50.


    Is my overbet on the turn the best way to take advantage of a tilting player?
    ndultimate.
  24. #24
    Operation is complete. My BR surpassed 4k this morning. I dont think im ready to move up to 200nl but ill decide on that later. Here are a few big hands over the last couple days that pushed me over the top:

    i actually honestly put MP1 on 44 when he min raised, and i just pushed because i wanted to make it look like i had the nut flush draw. Was a huge pot so i didnt think i was gonna push anyone out.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP3 ($98)
    CO ($50.35)
    Hero ($110.20)
    SB ($124.50)
    BB ($78)
    UTG ($86)
    UTG+1 ($156.50)
    MP1 ($141.90)
    MP2 ($93.70)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7.
    UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, MP1 calls $3, MP2 calls $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, 1 fold, BB calls $2.

    Flop: ($15.50) Q, 4, 7 (5 players)
    BB checks, UTG bets $10, MP1 raises to $20, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $107.2 (All-In), BB folds, UTG calls $73 (All-In), MP1 calls $87.20.

    Turn: ($264.50) K (3 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($264.50) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Final Pot: $312.90

    Results in white below:
    UTG has As Ad (one pair, aces).
    MP1 has 4c 4h (three of a kind, fours).
    Hero has 7c 7h (three of a kind, sevens).
    Outcome: Hero wins $312.90.


    In the following hand i put my opponent on a medium pocket pair because i didnt think 8x or 55 would play the flop in this way. i figured he had 2 outs at best so just calling wasnt too dangerous.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    UTG ($20)
    UTG+1 ($90.50)
    MP1 ($56.05)
    MP2 ($253.20)
    CO ($118.95)
    Hero ($87.90)
    SB ($97.15)
    BB ($17)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
    3 folds, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.5, 1 fold, BB calls $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50.

    Flop: ($14) 8, 8, 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, MP2 bets $1, Hero raises to $9, BB folds, MP2 raises to $18, Hero calls $8.

    Turn: ($49) 3 (2 players)
    MP2 bets $26, Hero calls $26.

    River: ($101) 2 (2 players)
    MP2 bets $57, Hero calls $40.40 (All-In).

    Final Pot: $181.80

    Results in white below:
    MP2 has Qd Tc (one pair, eights).
    Hero has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and eights).
    Outcome: Hero wins $181.80. MP2 wins $16.60.


    Those are the huge hands from the last couple days. Over the last couple weeks i have gotten very comfortable at 100nl and i feel my game has improved. Biggest improvement i think i made to my game was to find good spots to 3-bet light. 3-betting light in the right situations has definitely padded my winnings. ill probably throw up PT screenshots later.
    ndultimate.
  25. #25
    congrats on completing your operation!

    I'd be afraid to play $200NL with only 20 buyins. I have a $6k BR and plan to stay at $100NL until I have $8k ... I'm a BR baby though.
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