Heads Up Headache

[mikeneron]

I have been on a terrible run as of late with my heads up matches. I have recently been playing a lot of the four person ones on PokerStars. I have lost 13 of them in a row and just can't seem to break the funk I am in.

I have posted a few histories in the hopes that the experts here can pick up on some leaks in my game. People say to take a break and walk away for awhile, but I like to sit down and analyze things to try and figure out problems in my game. If you walk away and come back later, those problems will still be there and you will just face the same problems again.

Match 1
Match 2
Match 3

[mcatdog]

Raise more, fold less. I'll look over them more carefully later but your game should improve 10x if you just do that.

[uscheese]

Those 4 people HU matches aren't really a great bet IMO. Only one person cashes correct?

[mikeneron]

Yeah only one person cashes, but you only need to win 1 in 3.80 to break even, whereas you need to win 1 in 1.90 to break even in the two-person matches.

Let's say you win on average 55% of your regular matches. This is barely above the breakeven point so I think this would be easily attainable...so we will assume that percentage for the 4 person ones as well. I am using a $5 entry fee on the matches.
2 person: 55 wins out of 100.
Cost: $525. Winnings: 55x$10=$550. Total Profit: $25. ROI: 4.76%
4 person: 55 wins out of 100 in first round...so 55 times getting to round 2. Then 55% of those for the win...so on average 30.25 times you would win out of 100.
Cost: $525. Winnings: 30.25x$20=$605. Total Profit: $80. ROI: 15.24%
....this is more than triple (3.2) that of the 2 person ones.

[marmot]

I enjoyed your use of the word 'funk'

[bjsaust]

Bloat the pot with your strong starting hands. Why are you completing/checking with AK, AQ, AJ, etc?

Umm. I think maybe if you review these yourself you'll spot plenty of issues. Pretend it was someone else playing and think how you'd respond.

Only been through the first one so far but:

Your PF limps are being reraised almost 1 in 4 times because thats all you do.

You're using a c/c flop, c/f turn approach too much and opps are spotting it to steal nice pots off you.

When you hit a decent hand you sometimes overbet it.


What would you say if you saw a new poster play this hand after completing/calling almost all game?

-----Hand 78-----
Heros M = 56.67
PokerStars Game #10997508916: Tournament #55764865, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round II, Level I (20/40) - 2007/07/17 - 23:52:34 (ET)
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Table 55764865 1 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (3400 in chips)
Seat 2: mdmink (2600 in chips)
mdmink: posts small blind 20
Hero: posts big blind 40
Preflop: Hero dealt K K
mdmink: calls 20
Hero: raises 80 to 120
mdmink: folds
Hero collected 80 from pot


Hand 79, at least bet the turn, start bloating the pot at some point with a monster.

Hand 80 is horrible, I'm sure it doesnt need explaining.

Hand 101, you deserve that.

I'm not sure, but this feels too strong HU. I've been tempering my raises since we're not trying to isolate, just to bloat the pot. This would be much better if you hadnt checked 95% of hands from the BB.

-----Hand 108-----
Heros M = 24.00
PokerStars Game #10997717255: Tournament #55764865, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round II, Level III (50/100) - 2007/07/18 - 00:07:52 (ET)
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Table 55764865 1 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Hero (3600 in chips)
Seat 2: mdmink (2400 in chips)
mdmink: posts small blind 50
Hero: posts big blind 100
Preflop: Hero dealt A K
mdmink: calls 50
Hero: raises 300 to 400
mdmink: folds
Hero collected 200 from pot


Your play feels a bit predictable, and I'd like to see more PF "poker" being played. You seem to be relying too much on winning hands at showdown. You also dont seem to be reading your opps as well as I'd expect. Notice what they do. If they pull the same move 2 or 3 times, its probably a move so the next time they do it, counter it.

Main thing though, look to be raising many more hands PF while in position and let the trusty old c-bet do its magic.

[mcatdog]

I went through tournament #2 and copied all the hands that I would have played differently

----Hand 6-----
Heros M = 50.33
PokerStars Game #10995829032: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/17 - 22:06:07 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1490 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1510 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 10
Hero: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt 6 9
Jethro_45430: calls 10
Hero: checks
Flop: 8 5 K
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: bets 20
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 40 from pot

-----Hand 7-----
Heros M = 49.67
PokerStars Game #10995835012: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/17 - 22:06:30 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1510 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1490 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 10
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt 8 6
Hero: calls 10
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 7 7 T
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: A
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
River: 6
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 40
Jethro_45430: calls 40
Showdown:
Hero: shows 8 6 (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
Jethro_45430: mucks hand
Hero collected 120 from pot

-----Hand 11-----
Heros M = 56.33
PokerStars Game #10995880304: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/17 - 22:09:11 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1310 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1690 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 10
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt T J
Hero: calls 10
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: A 4 J
Jethro_45430: bets 20
Hero: calls 20
Turn: Q
Jethro_45430: bets 80
Hero: calls 80
River: 6
Jethro_45430: bets 120
Hero: calls 120
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows 2 A (a pair of Aces)
Hero: mucks hand
Jethro_45430 collected 480 from pot

-----Hand 13-----
Heros M = 48.33
PokerStars Game #10995905417: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/17 - 22:10:40 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1550 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1450 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 10
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt 2 5
Hero: calls 10
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 4 J J
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 8
Jethro_45430: bets 20
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 40 from pot

-----Hand 14-----
Heros M = 47.00
PokerStars Game #10995916417: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/17 - 22:11:19 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1590 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1410 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 10
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt K Q
Hero: calls 10
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 4 J 3
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 7
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
River: 5
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows T 9 (high card Jack)
Hero: shows K Q (high card King)
Hero collected 40 from pot

-----Hand 17-----
Heros M = 43.67
PokerStars Game #10995943506: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/07/17 - 22:12:56 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1690 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1310 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 10
Hero: posts big blind 20
Preflop: Hero dealt 5 T
Jethro_45430: calls 10
Hero: checks
Flop: 3 5 4
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: checks
Turn: Q
Hero: bets 40
Jethro_45430: calls 40
River: 3
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: bets 100
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 120 from pot

-----Hand 18-----
Heros M = 27.78
PokerStars Game #10995957148: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/17 - 22:13:45 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1750 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1250 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 15
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 30
Preflop: Hero dealt 6 A
Hero: calls 15
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 3 4 K
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: A
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 60
Jethro_45430: calls 60
River: J
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 120
Jethro_45430: folds
Hero collected 180 from pot

-----Hand 21-----
Heros M = 24.44
PokerStars Game #10995997161: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/17 - 22:16:08 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1900 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1100 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 15
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 30
Preflop: Hero dealt 7 4
Hero: calls 15
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 5 A 8
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 9
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
River: 3
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows K T (high card Ace)
Hero: mucks hand
Jethro_45430 collected 60 from pot

-----Hand 24-----
Heros M = 26.44
PokerStars Game #10996020821: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/17 - 22:17:31 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1810 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1190 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 15
Hero: posts big blind 30
Preflop: Hero dealt 8 T
Jethro_45430: calls 15
Hero: checks
Flop: Q 5 6
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: bets 60
Hero: calls 60
Turn: 4
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: checks
River: A
Hero: bets 180
Jethro_45430: raises 180 to 360
Hero: calls 180
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows A K (a pair of Aces)
Hero: shows 8 T (a flush, Ace high)
Hero collected 900 from pot

-----Hand 27-----
Heros M = 39.11
PokerStars Game #10996053904: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/17 - 22:19:29 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1240 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1760 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 15
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 30
Preflop: Hero dealt Q K
Hero: calls 15
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: T 2 9
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: T
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
River: Q
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 60
Jethro_45430: folds
Hero collected 60 from pot

-----Hand 33-----
Heros M = 42.44
PokerStars Game #10996107644: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2007/07/17 - 22:22:40 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1090 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1910 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 15
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 30
Preflop: Hero dealt K J
Hero: calls 15
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 3 7 8
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 8
Jethro_45430: bets 90
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 60 from pot

-----Hand 35-----
Heros M = 25.47
PokerStars Game #10996125376: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:23:44 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1090 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1910 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt T 9
Hero: calls 25
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 4 Q 8
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 4
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
River: T
Jethro_45430: bets 50
Hero: calls 50
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows 2 T (two pair, Tens and Fours)
Hero: shows T 9 (two pair, Tens and Fours)
Jethro_45430 collected 100 from pot
Hero collected 100 from pot

-----Hand 37-----
Heros M = 24.13
PokerStars Game #10996143799: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:24:50 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1190 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1810 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt A 9
Hero: calls 25
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 2 A 5
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 50
Jethro_45430: calls 50
Turn: K
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 100
Jethro_45430: calls 100
River: 3
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows 4 7 (a straight, Ace to Five)
Hero: mucks hand
Jethro_45430 collected 400 from pot

-----Hand 38-----
Heros M = 21.47
PokerStars Game #10996155761: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:25:34 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1390 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1610 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 25
Hero: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt T A
Jethro_45430: raises 50 to 100
Hero: calls 50
Flop: 7 K J
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: bets 150
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 200 from pot

-----Hand 40-----
Heros M = 19.47
PokerStars Game #10996168828: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:26:22 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1540 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1460 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 25
Hero: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt J A
Jethro_45430: calls 25
Hero: checks
Flop: 7 7 K
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: checks
Turn: A
Hero: bets 50
Jethro_45430: folds
Hero collected 100 from pot

-----Hand 41-----
Heros M = 20.13
PokerStars Game #10996176018: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:26:47 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1490 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1510 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt 3 4
Hero: calls 25
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 9 J 7
Jethro_45430: bets 100
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 100 from pot

-----Hand 44-----
Heros M = 18.13
PokerStars Game #10996196650: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:28:02 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1640 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1360 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 25
Hero: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt 8 7
Jethro_45430: calls 25
Hero: checks
Flop: 3 K K
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: bets 50
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 100 from pot

-----Hand 47-----
Heros M = 15.80
PokerStars Game #10996222863: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:29:38 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1815 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1185 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 25
Hero: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt 7 8
Jethro_45430: calls 25
Hero: checks
Flop: 7 8 K
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: checks
Turn: T
Hero: bets 50
Jethro_45430: folds
Hero collected 100 from pot

-----Hand 48-----
Heros M = 16.47
PokerStars Game #10996231680: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:30:10 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1765 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1235 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt K A
Hero: raises 100 to 150
Jethro_45430: calls 100
Flop: 7 T 2
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: 3
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
River: 5
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows 8 K (high card King)
Hero: shows K A (high card Ace)
Hero collected 300 from pot

-----Hand 49-----
Heros M = 18.47
PokerStars Game #10996240889: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:30:44 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1615 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1385 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 25
Hero: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt 5 8
Jethro_45430: calls 25
Hero: checks
Flop: 7 9 6
Hero: bets 50
Jethro_45430: calls 50
Turn: J
Hero: bets 100
Jethro_45430: raises 250 to 350
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 400 from pot

-----Hand 50-----
Heros M = 15.80
PokerStars Game #10996266309: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level III (25/50) - 2007/07/17 - 22:32:17 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (1815 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (1185 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 25
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 50
Preflop: Hero dealt A J
Hero: calls 25
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: T 8 5
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: J
Jethro_45430: bets 50
Hero: raises 100 to 150
Jethro_45430: raises 300 to 450
Hero: calls 300
River: K
Jethro_45430: bets 300
Hero: calls 300
Showdown:
Jethro_45430: shows 9 7 (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Hero: mucks hand
Jethro_45430 collected 1600 from pot

-----Hand 54-----
Heros M = 6.13
PokerStars Game #10996320019: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2007/07/17 - 22:35:33 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (2080 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (920 in chips)
Jethro_45430: posts small blind 50
Hero: posts big blind 100
Preflop: Hero dealt A 2
Jethro_45430: calls 50
Hero: checks
Flop: 2 J T
Hero: checks
Jethro_45430: bets 100
Hero: folds
Jethro_45430 collected 200 from pot

-----Hand 56-----
Heros M = 5.80
PokerStars Game #10996333983: Tournament #55758653, $5.00+$0.25 Holdem No Limit - Match Round I, Level IV (50/100) - 2007/07/17 - 22:36:24 (ET)
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Table 55758653 2 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Jethro_45430 (2130 in chips)
Seat 2: Hero (870 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 50
Jethro_45430: posts big blind 100
Preflop: Hero dealt T Q
Hero: calls 50
Jethro_45430: checks
Flop: 2 K J
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: checks
Turn: T
Jethro_45430: checks
Hero: bets 100
Jethro_45430: folds
Hero collected 200 from pot

[mcatdog]

Hand 6 - I like to take a stab at the flop anytime I flop any kind of a draw even a gutshot, especially if it's a flop like that one that misses most hands

Hand 7 - see hand 6

Hand 11 - raise preflop

Hand 13 - fold that shit preflop

Hand 14 - you have a monster PLEASE raise preflop

Hand 17 - really bad flop check, as played call river

Hand 18 - raise preflop

Hand 21 - fold preflop

Hand 24 - bet flop, push river over his raise why are you just calling, it's heads up and you have a flush, you should have taken control of the SnG right here

Hand 27 - raise preflop

Hand 33 - raise preflop

Hand 35 - raise preflop (I see a pattern here)

Hand 37 - raise preflop, value bet the river and fold to his check-raise, top pair is usually good enough to bet on the river heads-up don't be scared of unlikely straights

Hand 38 - AT is a monster heads-up, re-raise him preflop and call a shove, if he just calls your re-raise then shove almost any flop

Hand 40 - raise preflop

Hand 41 - fold the trash preflop

Hand 44 - this is OK but you should sometimes be taking stabs at flops like that one that miss almost every hand, if you pick up a lot of the pots where no one has anything you'll be at a big advantage but you let him take most of those pots which is a big reason why you lost

Hand 47 - this is a bad flop to slow-play, he'll call your bet with a lot of hands so bet, be more inclined to slowplay if the flop probably missed him and you want to let him catch up

Hand 48 - bet 200 on the flop

Hand 49 - meh, that turn card sucks but I'd still go broke

Hand 50 - raise preflop, as played fold turn to his re-raise, you put in more action with top pair than you did in a earlier hand when you had a flush, that's an example of you letting him control the size of the pot and him outplaying you overall

Hand 54 - shove preflop, don't let people see a free flop heads-up when you have 10BB and you have an ace

Hand 56 - shove preflop

[mcatdog]

UScheese - Mikeneron already explained mathematically why 4 player SnG's are a great value but if you don't understand the math, think of it this way. You get to play two matches but the rake is the same as if you just played one match. If you have an edge heads-up then that edge compounds exponentially when you get to play two matches instead of one. The 4 player SnG's are some of the best value (rake-wise) that's available on PokerStars.

[uscheese]

UScheese - Mikeneron already explained mathematically why 4 player SnG's are a great value but if you don't understand the math, think of it this way. You get to play two matches but the rake is the same as if you just played one match. If you have an edge heads-up then that edge compounds exponentially when you get to play two matches instead of one. The 4 player SnG's are some of the best value (rake-wise) that's available on PokerStars.

Gotcha...thanks for the explanation mc

[bjsaust]

At what point do you think your edge counts for less in these multi-HU tourneys? Are the 16s so reliant on lucky cards that it doesnt matter?