.5/1NL: TPTK, raised at the turn

[Wooderson]

Too passive?

Stage #698559336: Holdem No Limit $1 - 2007-07-04 02:31:59 (ET)
Table: BROWNING DR (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - WOODERSON316 ($68.45 in chips)
Seat 4 - DCDARKO ($59.60 in chips)
Seat 5 - COLBEAGLE ($197.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - B000 ($105.05 in chips)
Seat 7 - MIDNIGHT2345 ($362.67 in chips)
Seat 8 - 1ROCKY1 ($30 in chips)
Seat 9 - ZACH1123 ($31.25 in chips)
Seat 1 - VSEMSTAT ($93 in chips)
Seat 2 - KKISM300 ($215.05 in chips)
DCDARKO - Posts small blind $0.50
COLBEAGLE - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to WOODERSON316 [Ad Kd]
B000 - Folds
MIDNIGHT2345 - Folds
1ROCKY1 - Calls $1
ZACH1123 - Folds
VSEMSTAT - Folds
KKISM300 - Folds
WOODERSON316 - Raises $5 to $5
DCDARKO - Folds
COLBEAGLE - Calls $4
1ROCKY1 - Folds
*** FLOP *** [2s As 5h]
COLBEAGLE - Checks
WOODERSON316 - Bets $6
COLBEAGLE - Raises $16 to $16
WOODERSON316 - Calls $10
*** TURN *** [2s As 5h] [Jc]
COLBEAGLE - Bets $25
WOODERSON316 - Folds
COLBEAGLE - returned ($25) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
COLBEAGLE - Does not show
COLBEAGLE Collects $40.85 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($43.50) | Rake ($2.15) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [2s As 5h Jc]
Seat 1: VSEMSTAT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: KKISM300 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: WOODERSON316 (dealer) Folded on the TURN
Seat 4: DCDARKO (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: COLBEAGLE (big blind) collected Total ($40.85) HI$40.85) [Does not show]
Seat 6: B000 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: MIDNIGHT2345 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: 1ROCKY1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: ZACH1123 Folded on the POCKET CARDS

[BankItDrew]

I think that was pretty passive. Maybe try and 3 bet the flop.

[PapalRage]

Any non min 3 bet on the flop might as well be a push because over 2/3rds of hero's stack would be committed. I think that since we probably dont get called by anything we beat on the flop, calling and pushing over the turn bet could be best to maximize profit against worse hands. Depending on reads it is either a fold or push on the turn but i dont think 3-betting the flop is the best play.

[Wooderson]

Both of these are very helpful. Thanks.

[jimmy44]

I agree that 3 betting here on the flop is committing ourselves to the pot.
On the turn, isn't this a fold most of the time? Most of the time he'll be showing you 2 pairs or better and sometimes (depends on opp) a flush draw.

[Da GOAT]

i shove flop

[Penfold]

it's a somewhat drawy board, any reads?

[Fnord]

68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.

[Wooderson]

it's a somewhat drawy board, any reads?

Not really. Like everyone else at Absolute he tends to limp a lot.

68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.

What do you mean by that? Especially "68 deep"? Just that i'm at about 1/3 a buy in, or something else?

Thanks guys.

[Warpe]

DCDARKO - Posts small blind $0.50
COLBEAGLE - Posts big blind $1

this ain't no 1/2 hand, just deep stacks

regardless, felt it

[Wooderson]

So it sounds like the concensus is to re-raise and 3-bet the flop raise, but due to stack size that means push over the top. Correct?

[euphoricism]

A) reload
B) not folding

[Da GOAT]

it's a somewhat drawy board, any reads?

Not really. Like everyone else at Absolute he tends to limp a lot.

68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.

What do you mean by that? Especially "68 deep"? Just that i'm at about 1/3 a buy in, or something else?

Thanks guys.

68 deep is 68BBs ie its basically vs a shorty who could have a much larger range given that most shorties are just terrible players

[wufwugy]

Use converter please.

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

[Wooderson]

Use converter please.

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

I would have, but it doesn't work for Absolute Poker NLHE. Click your link and see how it works.

[wufwugy]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1273906

www.google.com

[Wooderson]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1273906

www.google.com

Now that is sweet. I'm double retarded.

[Vrax]

68 deep, I'm seeing a showdown every time.

What do you mean by that? Especially "68 deep"? Just that i'm at about 1/3 a buy in, or something else?

Thanks guys.

You have initial $68BB's in stack and you are covered OR villain has 68BB and you have him covered = 68 deep

If blinds were 0.25/0.50, then you'd be 136 deep. You'd have more money behind and tougher decision to make.