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    Default Latest 109 - some marginal mistakes

    I made a couple of moderate mistakes. One could have been disastrous. Can you find them?

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    Hint: It's not in hands 10 or 13.
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    Hand 2: Interesting river bet size. I really like your flop + turn line against thinking players.
    Hand 3: Wreckless, your hand will rarely showdown best.
    Hand 6: This might be a mistake and it makes me want to puke.
    Hand 10: Sick
    Hand 13: Wow. I'm flipping between bet and check on that turn. I thought I liked a check, now I like a bet. The river call is sick.
    Hand 18: Why this bet size?
    Hand 19: Nice fold
    Hand 20: I think you need to peel on that flop
    I skipped a bunch of HU, I like how you played him overall. It's funny how players this tight HU can still be pretty hard to bring down.
    Hand 39: Uhhh....
    Hand 52: Another fun turn play. I just can't see you good very often here and think it was a mistake to get all the money in here.
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    I don't play at this level and good reads may change things but for what its worth:

    Hand 6: I am not sure why you pushed here with a shortie on the bubble? I guess if you thought any 2 from the large stack, but man you were almost gaurenteed to money without (what ended up) a coin flip.

    Hand 42: I think you are more often beat here. Possibly he is on a flush draw and with your stack you can take a chance but again just don't I don't think he would push without something that is beating your hand.

    Hand 52: Similar to 42 but now the stakes are a bit higher. He isn't risking 4k chips on a hand that isn't beating yours.
  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Hand 2: Interesting river bet size. I really like your flop + turn line against thinking players.
    Hand 3: Wreckless, your hand will rarely showdown best.
    Hand 6: This might be a mistake and it makes me want to puke.
    Hand 10: Sick
    Hand 13: Wow. I'm flipping between bet and check on that turn. I thought I liked a check, now I like a bet. The river call is sick.
    Hand 18: Why this bet size?
    Hand 19: Nice fold
    Hand 20: I think you need to peel on that flop
    I skipped a bunch of HU, I like how you played him overall. It's funny how players this tight HU can still be pretty hard to bring down.
    Hand 39: Uhhh....
    Hand 52: Another fun turn play. I just can't see you good very often here and think it was a mistake to get all the money in here.
    Hands 2 and 6 were the ones I felt were mistakes. 2 should have been either a check or a bigger bet on the river. 6 should have been a smooth call preflop. On the flop, I think I have to get it in as a 60% favorite, though I can see an argument for just calling.

    18: Bet size to be consistent. If I'm betting this much with trash, and betting smaller with real hands, I don't want to be exploited via pushbot tactics. I also felt like repeating what I'd done was the best way to get him to shove over in frustration.

    20: I can see your argument, but skoot was pretty tight. I'm always behind here, and I certainly expect to be able to make back the chips.

    39: This was the first time he reraised me, so I gave credit for a hand, expecting to be able to make back the difference pretty easily. I'm getting 3:2 on the call, and I'm honestly doubting that I'm that good against his range at this point.

    52: This might have been a mistake. I felt pretty sure that either my hand was good and he had 8 outs to a better flush or I had 9 outs to the flush and 3 outs to a winning 2 pair. I think he reraises most jacks on the flop. The times I'm behind, I'm 27% to win. The times I'm ahead, he's 27% *or less (semi-bluffing straight draw, for example...rare, but sometimes)* to win. I think I'm ahead about as often as not.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by kstarm
    Hand 42: I think you are more often beat here. Possibly he is on a flush draw and with your stack you can take a chance but again just don't I don't think he would push without something that is beating your hand.
    I thought he had to have either KQ (rarely), AQ, or a bluff here. Since I checked twice to induce the bet, I felt I needed to call to snap off bluffs. If he's betting, he basically has to push, and he has shown that he'll bet if I repeatedly check to him (true, we don't know what he had the times he bet, but I doubt he always had a strong hand).
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    Hand 8: ?

    Hand 13: Interesting. Unlikely he has an A, but you still only have a low pair. Is this kind of play common at the $109 level? Did you feel you were ahead on the river, and if so why?

    Hand 23: NH, turn sucked, yey for river!

    Hand 32: Nice, I was just thinking you were letting him take the pot on the flop too often.

    Hand 34: NH.

    Hand 39: Agreed, I like this fold.

    Hand 47: I think he pulled a move here, but a pair of twos is hardly the hand to find out with, GF.

    Hand 52: I dont mind. He's pulled this turn move a few times now. Risky though.



    Lots more postflop play at this level. Its nice to read.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjsaust
    Hand 8: ?

    Hand 13: Interesting. Unlikely he has an A, but you still only have a low pair. Is this kind of play common at the $109 level? Did you feel you were ahead on the river, and if so why?

    Hand 23: NH, turn sucked, yey for river!

    Hand 32: Nice, I was just thinking you were letting him take the pot on the flop too often.

    Hand 34: NH.

    Hand 39: Agreed, I like this fold.

    Hand 47: I think he pulled a move here, but a pair of twos is hardly the hand to find out with, GF.

    Hand 52: I dont mind. He's pulled this turn move a few times now. Risky though.
    8: Looking at this hand individually, we're basically heads up. It's profitable to limp from SB with any two if you're unlikely to be raised. He wasn't doing a lot of raising limpers light, so I felt comfortable. Postflop, it was a pure gutshot-semi-bluff, obv.

    13: Yes, I felt I was ahead. As you said, he's unlikely to have the A. He can also reasonably feel I'm unlikely to have it. Plus hand 10 shows that he'll make this type of a move lightly. I thought nearly any two were in his range, and I also didn't think he'd make this big of a bet if he wanted a call. I probably fold to 700-1k. As is, this was an instanta-call.

    47: It felt likely to me too, but my hand is just too weak to chance it.
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