QQ 100NL #2

[Da GOAT]

Another post, opp is a 16/7 TAG over a huge sample. Is this spewtastic??


** Game ID 1541998164 starting - 2007-08-07 17:45:11
** Sofia [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- ___ICU___ sitting in seat 1 with $110.03
- spud3896 sitting in seat 2 with $76.77
- mariua1982 sitting in seat 3 with $241.59
- -Rust- sitting in seat 4 with $82.50
- Challe50 sitting in seat 5 with $97.95 [Dealer]
- Art0fWar sitting in seat 6 with $114.50

Art0fWar posted the small blind - $0.50
___ICU___ posted the big blind - $1.00
** Dealing card to Art0fWar: ,
spud3896 folded
mariua1982 folded
-Rust- raised - $4.00
Challe50 raised - $14.00
Art0fWar raised - $47.50
___ICU___ folded
-Rust- folded
Challe50 called - $47.50

** Dealing the flop: , ,
Art0fWar went all-in - $67.50

[snowbird4life]

Looks spewtastic to me. What are you putting him on? JJ/QQ split?

[zook]

I 4-bet smaller, to ~$40. On the flop, the range of 16/7 calling a pre-flop 4-bet is crushing you and I doubt he's folding KK. I c/f 3 streets.

[crazycrazy]

if he is 16/7 over good sample then he has QQ+,AKs there. Looks like he have KK,AK most likely tho.
that raise against him.i dont know .if he call he is ahead.

u can push but i doubt he is folding.

checking and pushing turn may be better as it may sound like u hit those aces and u may get KK to fold.

[Da GOAT]

Opp wont fold JJ-KK here??? Thats what im depending on. Snce we have 2 aces on flop then % chance of his holding goes way down,no? i should stove this.

[snowbird4life]

didn't see two aces on the flop, hh is messed up for me. All i saw was a7...2 aces on the flop changes things... but i still dont see him folding kk/qq/jj, plus is he going to assume u shoved when u flopped trip aces? doubtful, i think hes calling with kk/qq/jj here.

[zook]

didn't see two aces on the flop, hh is messed up for me. All i saw was a7...

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Goat, I definitely think he's calling with KK here for 2/3 pot. And AK is a much bigger part of his range anyway.

[mixchange]

You have to realize that half villain's stack is already in. He's probably calling with just about anything in his 4bet calling range. I think you're getting called, so it's just a matter of whether or not you think you are behind. I think you are really only beating JJ here, so it's a pretty marginal spot...depends though if that's in his 4 bet *calling* range which for many is not. I think you are likely beat here. I'd rather not 4bet the QQ OOP, especially when it is half villain's stack.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

Opp wont fold JJ-KK here??? Thats what im depending on. Snce we have 2 aces on flop then % chance of his holding goes way down,no? i should stove this.

I would think he is a reasonably aware opponent he is going to figure the chances of your holding an Ace goes way down.

[benny999]

interesting flop move. is villain flat calling the 4bet with AK?

imo unless hes bad, he usually has KK maybe JJ here. so i think this is borderline, but prob spew since villain may just call with KK.
still, goat is more likely to have an ace or air here so its almost a "valuebluff"

[Unibomber14]

If we put AKs, KK, QQ, and JJ (I think JJ is in his 4-bet range on the button) in his range, then what kind of FE do we need for this push?

Or is it a different statistic to look at here?

[Miffed22001]

you need a mop and bucket for this one 99% of the time.

[snowbird4life]

didn't see two aces on the flop, hh is messed up for me. All i saw was a7...

You must be running adblock The ace of diamonds has 'Ad' in url so it gets blocked.

Goat, I definitely think he's calling with KK here for 2/3 pot. And AK is a much bigger part of his range anyway.

Heh thanks for pointing that out... i knew something was up when some cards weren't showing

Anyway, im pretty sure villain isn't folding here with pretty much anything he called your 4bet with so i still don't like your shove.