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    POKERSTARS GAME #11304678233: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/08/04 - 11:40:24 (ET)
    I had caught a few hands recently, and everyone was folding to my raises, so i thought i would mix it up by open limping utg with jj

    Table 'Arabella' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Shakaa450 ($31.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: MightyMonkey ($12.80 in chips)
    Seat 3: axel_paulsen ($20.90 in chips)
    Seat 4: laborit ($28.05 in chips)
    Seat 5: Monolake ($26.05 in chips)
    Seat 6: Ton321 ($35.70 in chips)
    Seat 7: PedroPepper ($25.10 in chips)
    Seat 8: LaMoucate ($22.20 in chips)
    Seat 9: N00B2007 ($24.65 in chips)
    laborit: posts small blind $0.10
    Monolake: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Ton321 [Jh Jd]
    Ton321: calls $0.25
    PedroPepper: raises $0.75 to $1
    LaMoucate: folds
    N00B2007: folds
    Shakaa450: folds
    MightyMonkey: folds
    axel_paulsen: folds
    laborit: folds
    Monolake: calls $0.75
    Ton321: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [Ts 7s Qd]
    Monolake: checks
    Ton321: checks
    PedroPepper: bets $1.25
    Monolake: folds
    Ton321: raises $1.25 to $2.50
    I tried to gauge how strong he was by doing this

    PedroPepper: calls $1.25
    *** TURN *** [Ts 7s Qd] [7c]
    Ton321: bets $2
    PedroPepper: calls $2
    then i thought am i being taken for a ride with aa,kk,qq?
    *** RIVER *** [Ts 7s Qd 7c] [8h]
    Ton321: checks
    PedroPepper: bets $3
    Ton321: folds
    if there hadnt been the queen on the board i probably would have gritted my teeth and called
    PedroPepper collected $11.55 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $12.10 | Rake $0.55
    Board [Ts 7s Qd 7c 8h]
    Seat 1: Shakaa450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: MightyMonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: axel_paulsen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: laborit (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Monolake (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Ton321 folded on the River
    Seat 7: PedroPepper collected ($11.55)
    Seat 8: LaMoucate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: N00B2007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ton321
    did i butcher this hand?
    yes
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    min raising on that flop does not find out where youre at/how strong he is

    min raising on the flop is def the worst play you can make in nl hold em

    it screams "i am weak and dont have the balls to bluff"

    or "send me to value town"
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    Default Re: did i butcher this hand?

    Quote Originally Posted by ton321
    PokerStars GAME #11304678233: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/08/04 - 11:40:24 (ET)
    I had caught a few hands recently, and everyone was folding to my raises, so i thought i would mix it up by open limping utg with jj
    this is flawed. Dont ever open limp a hand like JJ. If you had been raising alot and no one called, then keep raising and they will think you are doing it with some trash hand.

    Table 'Arabella' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Shakaa450 ($31.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: MightyMonkey ($12.80 in chips)
    Seat 3: axel_paulsen ($20.90 in chips)
    Seat 4: laborit ($28.05 in chips)
    Seat 5: Monolake ($26.05 in chips)
    Seat 6: Ton321 ($35.70 in chips)
    Seat 7: PedroPepper ($25.10 in chips)
    Seat 8: LaMoucate ($22.20 in chips)
    Seat 9: N00B2007 ($24.65 in chips)
    laborit: posts small blind $0.10
    Monolake: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Ton321 [Jh Jd]
    Ton321: calls $0.25
    PedroPepper: raises $0.75 to $1
    LaMoucate: folds
    N00B2007: folds
    Shakaa450: folds
    MightyMonkey: folds
    axel_paulsen: folds
    laborit: folds
    Monolake: calls $0.75
    Ton321: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [Ts 7s Qd]
    Monolake: checks
    Ton321: checks
    PedroPepper: bets $1.25
    Monolake: folds
    Ton321: raises $1.25 to $2.50
    I tried to gauge how strong he was by doing this
    you didnt. All you did was give him odds to call with all kinds of weak pairs, draws, etc.

    PedroPepper: calls $1.25
    *** TURN *** [Ts 7s Qd] [7c]
    Ton321: bets $2
    PedroPepper: calls $2
    then i thought am i being taken for a ride with aa,kk,qq?
    no, probly just some semi-strong queen.

    *** RIVER *** [Ts 7s Qd 7c] [8h]
    Ton321: checks
    PedroPepper: bets $3
    Ton321: folds
    if there hadnt been the queen on the board i probably would have gritted my teeth and called
    PedroPepper collected $11.55 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $12.10 | Rake $0.55
    Board [Ts 7s Qd 7c 8h]
    Seat 1: Shakaa450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: MightyMonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: axel_paulsen (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: laborit (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Monolake (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Ton321 folded on the River
    Seat 7: PedroPepper collected ($11.55)
    Seat 8: LaMoucate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: N00B2007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    lesson learned. Play aggressive poker and put your opponents to a decision instead of the weak/passive play demonstrated here.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    JJ limp/called in EP is supposed to get ugly if u dont spike a J on the flop.

    min c/r costs lots of chips, so does your 1/4 lead on turn. raise pre next time, there are better spots to mix it up.
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    Just raise preflop, bet the flop and then take it from there.

    You butchered this hand beyond recognition.

    Tell me exactly why you wanted to "mix it up" preflop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bode-ist
    Quote Originally Posted by ton321
    did i butcher this hand?
    yes
    more like holy shit reading that hand hurt my fucking brain

    just picking on you ton, i promise i've likely done worse in a hand this week at some point

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