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  1. #1

    Default JJ, push the turn #2? $22

    Similar spot to my last post. I am also unsure preflop. Again, any stats are meaningless this early. I did think immediately on the flop to all your thoughts about the last hand, and bet the flop a little harder, maybe should have been 600. I considered checking the turn, but with the bigger pot:stack sizes, there was no way I was folding - may as well maximze FE although I can see checking to induce worse hands to shove the river. Don't want to have to fold the river if it's a spade when we're this commited though. Thoughts?

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is $40 (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Hero ($1940)
    Button ($1940)
    SB ($1960)
    BB ($2000)
    UTG ($880)
    UTG+1 ($2000)
    UTG+2 ($1880)
    MP1 ($2040)
    MP2 ($2420)
    MP3 ($2940)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Jc, Jd.
    UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $40, MP2 calls $40, MP3 raises to $160, Hero calls $160, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls $120, MP2 calls $120.

    Flop: ($700) 3h, 6s, 9s (4 players)
    MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $540, MP1 calls $540, MP2 folds, MP3 folds.

    Turn: ($1780) 4s (2 players)
    MP1 checks, Hero calls $1240 (All-In), MP1 calls $1240.

    River: ($4260) 5s (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Final Pot: $4260
    Main Pot: $4260 ($4260), between Hero and MP1.
  2. #2
    Reraise preflop to ~500 or so. Other than that, its fine.
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by KillThatInfidel
    Reraise preflop to ~500 or so. Other than that, its fine.
    Do you still reraise without the limpers?
  4. #4
    Yea, its a strong but vulnerable hand, so i try to just pick it up preflop or see where im at.
  5. #5
    I agree with re-raising preflop with the limpers. The problem is that if one or both of the limpers and one or both of the blinds call you are almost reduced to playing this strong preflop hand for set value. Without the limpers I would just flat call with position.

    Quote Originally Posted by KillThatInfidel
    Yea, its a strong but vulnerable hand, so i try to just pick it up preflop or see where im at.
    Don't mean to pick on you, but I really don't like this phrase. If you re-raise to 500 and opp calls, where are you at? If he pushes?
  6. #6
    If he calls then pushes, its hard. Depends on reads, but without reads if he pushes a flop of undercards, im calling.
  7. #7
    If he pushes its read dependant also. If hes been playing tight, solid then i fold if hes been extremely loose and aggressive i call. Without reads i muck.
  8. #8
    I think overall you played it decently, preflop reraising is an option, but given you had position and the raise before you was decent enough to drive most of the junk hands out callin is fine too.

    I would probably shove the flop, you probably have a the best hand, but it is very very voneraouble, I would be happy to take the pot down on the flop


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