JJ preflop, tough spot

[badgers]

$22s again.

Watch MP1, he is my opp in the future hand

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is $40 (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($2000)
UTG ($2000)
UTG+1 ($2000)
UTG+2 ($2000)
MP1 ($2000)
MP2 ($2000)
MP3 ($2000)
CO ($2000)
Button ($2000)
SB ($2000)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2s, 6d.
UTG calls $40, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $40, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $120, CO raises to $400, Button folds, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG folds, MP1 calls $360, MP3 calls $280.

Flop: ($1300) 2d, 9c, 4h (3 players)
MP1 bets $280, MP3 calls $280, CO calls $1600 (All-In), MP1 calls $1320 (All-In), MP3 calls $1320 (All-In).

Turn: ($6100) 3s (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($6100) 3c (3 players, 3 all-in)

Final Pot: $6100
Main Pot: $6100 ($6100), between MP1, MP3 and CO. > Pot won by MP3 ($6100).

MP1 has 8h As (one pair, threes).
MP3 has 4s 4c (full house, fours full of threes).
CO has 5d Kd (one pair, threes).
Outcome: MP3 wins $6100.

OMG! I'm guessing he is drunk/ 7-8 years old. Or both.

So I come up against him here... Our donkey is the SB. MP1 is a solid but slightly laggy player, no meaningful stats. TT+,AQ+ Seems reasonable. I have no idea what SBs range is, obviously he isn't folding though...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is $40 (10 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero ($2000)
MP1 ($2000)
MP2 ($2740)
MP3 ($2000)
CO ($1960)
Button ($1980)
SB ($1400)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($1960)
UTG+1 ($1960)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Jh, Jd.
UTG calls $40, UTG+1 calls $40, Hero raises to $160, MP1 raises to $520, 3 folds, SB calls $500, 3 folds, Hero shoves.....?

I thought with all that money that's likely to be in there from the maniac, I could push profitably here. Clearly I'd be much happier about it if I had QQ though. Thoughts?

[KillThatInfidel]

If this is a turbo, i push, but if it is normal i would fold.

[topsoyale]

I'm tight here but I fold. You haven't put that much in the pot, and even with a dumb villain calling, the initial raiser should scare you.

[taipan168]

Tough spot, but I agree with topsoyale, I'm letting this go with the re-raise from the solid player, even with the dead chips from the donkey. Too much chance that you're up against QQ+ here for me. I don't think that shoving is terrible though, honestly I could go either way but I lean towards folding. QQ I am definitely shoving though.

If this is a turbo, i push, but if it is normal i would fold.

Turbo or normal has got nothing to do with it. I would play this hand exactly the same whether it was a normal or a turbo.

[mcatdog]

You need about 39% equity to go for the triple-up on the first hand and I don't think you have that here even if the re-raiser's range is TT+, AQ+. S fold.

[KillThatInfidel]

I have noticed turbos get worse players a lot of the time. Also, with the blinds rising so fast, you get into push/fold very fast if you dont have a stack. For me, they are much easier to play with a big stack early.

[Stagemn]

Fold. I think you're beat here. That's a solid re-raise there and not enough to play JJ. QQ+, yes push.