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  1. #1

    Default SnG Wiz hates me for this. $22

    Down as -1.74 equity, which is the "worst mistake" I have made for a LONG TIME. But I am stubborn and not convinced. Big stack is aggro and not giving me a chance, this is my first opportunity to attack the players behind me. Given the massive improvement to my chances if I am able to shove into the short stacks behind in future hands, is this shove good?

    Also, I don't really know what ranges to put them on, though I think the wizards ranges look too loose. I have even less of a clue what range they put me on. Stats both around 17/12/2.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is $600 (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG

    saw flop|saw showdown

    Hero ($3300)
    SB ($3360)
    BB ($4310)
    UTG ($9030)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 6d, 3h.
    UTG folds, Hero.....?
  2. #2
    Push. They probably need KJ+ 22+ to call here and if they do with something thats not a pair, your not in bad shape.
  3. #3
    Hmmm, sorry if this is a stupid question or something, but what do those stats (17/12/2) mean and where do you get them?
  4. #4
    This is tough because although villains should be calling quite wide because of the high blinds, in reality they probably aren't, and you'll steal this very often.

    Still, I don't think I push this all too often.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by KillThatInfidel
    Hmmm, sorry if this is a stupid question or something, but what do those stats (17/12/2) mean and where do you get them?
    Stats, x/y/z are Pokertracker stats

    x is "voluntarily put money in pot" or VP$IP. A percentage of how many hands have been played, not including those where the only money put in is blind money.

    y is preflop raise percentage.

    z is aggression factor, 3 means you bet/raise 3x more often than you check/call.

    www.pokertracker.com/
    pokeracesoftware.com/hud/

    Thanks for the feedback so far guys.
  6. #6
    Tough spot. This is neutral EV if opps call with 44+,A9o+,A7s+,KJs+, any looser and it's -EV. The problem is that if they think you're pushing 100% (what have you been doing in previous hands, have you been a pushbot?) then it is solidly +EV for them to call with hands at the bottom of this range like 44 and KJ. For that reason, and also because lower buyin players tend to call too loose on the bubble, I let this go. Folded to in the SB I shove this with no worries at all though.
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Tough spot. This is neutral EV if opps call with 44+,A9o+,A7s+,KJs+, any looser and it's -EV. The problem is that if they think you're pushing 100% (what have you been doing in previous hands, have you been a pushbot?) then it is solidly +EV for them to call with hands at the bottom of this range like 44 and KJ. For that reason, and also because lower buyin players tend to call too loose on the bubble, I let this go. Folded to in the SB I shove this with no worries at all though.
    Exactly what Tai said.

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