A hand I butchered

[Da GOAT]

No reads, and no HUD allowed on EVP. Whats the best way to play this??


Starting game 1950360222.

beerbar is at seat 0 with $37.05.
pokerstar09 is at seat 1 with $82.23.
Commander77 is at seat 2 with $392.65.
lene-berith is at seat 4 with $93.70.
brunelli is at seat 5 with $119.98.
DaGOAT is at seat 7 with $112.40.
Chilote is at seat 8 with $40.70.

The dealer is seat 7.

Chilote posts a blind of $.50.
beerbar posts a blind of $1.

(DaGOAT is dealt )

Pre-flop:
pokerstar09 folds.
Commander77 calls for $1.
lene-berith folds.
brunelli calls for $1.
DaGOAT raises $4.50.
Chilote folds.
beerbar folds.
Commander77 calls for $4.50.
brunelli folds.

The flop comes


Commander77 bets $5.
DaGOAT raises $11.
Commander77 calls for $11.

The turn comes

Commander77 bets $1.50.
DaGOAT raises $30.50.
Commander77 calls for $30.50.

The river comes

Commander77 bets $35.
DaGOAT ?????????

[bode]

raise to $5.50 or $6 pre. raise to 3x atleast on the flop if he donks again on the turn i probly push. I dont think theres a standard line against donk min-betters like this, but i usually give them zero credit.

[Da GOAT]

BTW my raises are to be added to his.

PF is $5.50

Flop is $16

Turn is $32

Thosa are what my bets were

[snowbird4life]

I know its a overbet but i may just shove the turn here.

It seems sooo likely that hes on a draw if you ask me, and shoving the turn stops him from drawing, and how much of a donk he seems to be, i can easily see him calling with any part of the draws out there still, and i doubt he has a 6. If he has you beat, pray for a queen.

So ya, shove turn.

[Taxi]

Gametime+ works on Everest, there's yr HUD.
Playing $50 there myself, taking shots at $100 soon, cu there!

[Da GOAT]

yeah i could start shoving turn here i guess.

taxi, whats your username there?? I play only FR on EVP

[minSim]

Yeah gametime+ works on everest. You have to drag the stats to the right players names manually though, but it works. I played there as minSim for a month ago (6-max) bonuswhoring. I think everest is really one of the softest sites out there.

[Fnord]

Raise more pre-flop.

Raising this flop with more than 2 bets behind is hatred of money.

No reads, and no HUD allowed on EVP

WTF?!?! I haven't used a HuD in nearly 2 years and read people just fine.

[Da GOAT]

Raise more pre-flop.

Raising this flop with more than 2 bets behind is hatred of money.

No reads, and no HUD allowed on EVP

WTF?!?! I haven't used a HuD in nearly 2 years and read people just fine.

Yeah I 8tbl FR which aint an excuse for having no reads but i crush the game while roboting so............................ I just play FR to build my roll easily.

I bet pot PF which is what i usually do.

You make an interesting point on flop raise.I guess you are advocating a call here instead of making an much bigger flop raise since i dont really want to get it Allin on that flop.

[Galapogos]

Raising this flop with more than 2 bets behind is hatred of money.

Serious? It's such a drawy flop and his bet looks like every donk's bet when they're trying to "block" to get their draw cheaply.

[Fnord]

The problem is the turn card has a HUGE impact on our equity and raising increase the effective stakes of future betting rounds. Also re-opening the betting sets up a shove we probably really shouldn't call.

[IowaSkinsFan]

I've recently learned is standard to start calling these flops with overpairs. However, versus fishy players we have to raise the flop because of gigantic calling ranges. River is a close fold.

[Da GOAT]

Ive been coming across alot of spots and posts lately whereby its a similiar flop and we hold JJ or QQ type hands.

I would tend to raise it up if theres a third person on the flop but i can see the point of calling vs one opp. ill probably try keep the pot small though ive argued before against just calling.