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  1. #1

    Default $5.50 - Fried Chicken? - 2x Q9s

    So, down to the bubblegame, like these suited cards, but really got stuck in my game, havent been playing for awhile. But what should i do here? raise and be prepared to possibly call the SB on allin? The flop was not the reason why i wanted feedback on this hand.

    Hand #1
    CD Poker Tallinn 150/300
    saw flop | saw showdown

    UTG (4170)
    UTG (4470)
    SB SB (1620)
    BB BB (4740)

    Preflop: UTG is UTG with 9 Q
    2 folds, SB calls 150, BB checks.

    Flop (600) Q 8 9
    SB bets 300, 1 fold

    Hand #2
    BB has been playing solid, so i think it may be a good fold. That was like he first hand in like 10 rounds. But still, i wanted to call this. Would you?
    CD Poker Tallinn 200/400,
    saw flop | saw showdown

    Button (4870)
    SB (4940)
    BB BB (5190)

    Preflop: Button is on the Button with 9 Q
    Button raises to 800, 1 fold, BB raises to 1600, 1 fold
  2. #2
    Not sure what position you were in for each of these hands?
  3. #3
    The first he was UTG, 2nd he was Button.

    First hand: Meh, this is marginal. I would probably fold this.

    2nd: With 12xBB, I would either raise it to 1000, or just push here. Pushing gives you the maximum FE, but it may be risking too much to win too little. As played a fold is fine as long as you are prepared to start pushing wide.
  4. #4
    And I don't know if the Hand converter works with CD Poker, but if it does please use that.
  5. #5
    First hand is an easy fold.
    Second hand

    Quote Originally Posted by Zee Devee
    With 12xBB, I would either raise it to 1000, or just push here. Pushing gives you the maximum FE, but it may be risking too much to win too little. As played a fold is fine as long as you are prepared to start pushing wide.
    I agree. I hate folding to the minraise with position, but due to the stack sizes, villain can do some serious flop-shoving. So I think we fold as 2nd to act is actually bad here post-flop. Calling and seeing a flop is OK though.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Not sure what position you were in for each of these hands?
    Sorry for that, there isnt really a good converter for iPoker network.

    But Zee Deeve is right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zee Devee
    The first he was UTG, 2nd he was Button.

    First hand: Meh, this is marginal. I would probably fold this.

    2nd: With 12xBB, I would either raise it to 1000, or just push here. Pushing gives you the maximum FE, but it may be risking too much to win too little. As played a fold is fine as long as you are prepared to start pushing wide.
    Well is Q9s good enough to push at this stage at the game? with three players left?


    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    First hand is an easy fold.
    Second hand

    Quote Originally Posted by Zee Devee
    With 12xBB, I would either raise it to 1000, or just push here. Pushing gives you the maximum FE, but it may be risking too much to win too little. As played a fold is fine as long as you are prepared to start pushing wide.
    I agree. I hate folding to the minraise with position, but due to the stack sizes, villain can do some serious flop-shoving. So I think we fold as 2nd to act is actually bad here post-flop. Calling and seeing a flop is OK though.
    Well, as he was playing very solid i was a little bit afraid of calling him. Kinda chicken'd out.
  7. #7
    Hand 1 - I agree with the fold. Q9s is not nearly good enough for me to push UTG here, particularly considering the stack sizes. According to SNGPT you should push very tight here, something like JJ+, AK. Of course, you might raise 2.5x BB with a wider range but Q9s still isn't good enough for that.

    Hand 2 - I agree with the others, 1000-1200 to go preflop. As played I fold to the re-raise - badgers is right, acting second is actually something of a disadvantage here because opp will very often just open shove any flop.
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Hand 1 - I agree with the fold. Q9s is not nearly good enough for me to push UTG here, particularly considering the stack sizes. According to SNGPT you should push very tight here, something like JJ+, AK. Of course, you might raise 2.5x BB with a wider range but Q9s still isn't good enough for that.

    Hand 2 - I agree with the others, 1000-1200 to go preflop. As played I fold to the re-raise - badgers is right, acting second is actually something of a disadvantage here because opp will very often just open shove any flop.
    Thanx! needed those comments, i usually tend to over play q9, seem to like em :P dont know why. Anyways more hands will be posting for you guys.
  9. #9
    Meant to say one more thing - on the first hand, don't be results oriented when you see you would have flopped top two pair. Flopping two pair happens about 2.2% of the time.

    Also, when you're posting hands, you should really cut off the hand history at the decision point you're asking about, unless you've got a question about how you played a hand overall. The rest of the hand is irrelevant (especially the results).
  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by taipan168
    Meant to say one more thing - on the first hand, don't be results oriented when you see you would have flopped top two pair. Flopping two pair happens about 2.2% of the time.

    Also, when you're posting hands, you should really cut off the hand history at the decision point you're asking about, unless you've got a question about how you played a hand overall. The rest of the hand is irrelevant (especially the results).
    Yeah, think i noted that too, that it was results oriented, i really wanted to call but made myself fold.

    Thanks, good tip to only show my "prob".

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