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  1. #1

    Default my first 200NL hand

    small site, unknowns

    100bb, villain covers

    cpdood Posts SB 1.00
    HERO Posts BB 2.00
    freddycheese Folds
    mochess Folds
    tubes33 Raised to 6.00
    jimmybob77 Calls 6.00
    cpdood Folds
    HERO Raised to 20.00 with Q Q
    tubes33 Folds
    jimmybob77 Calls 16.00

    ---- FLOP ---- 8 J J
    HERO Bets 35.00
    jimmybob77 Calls 35.00

    ---- TURN ---- 4
    HERO Checks
    jimmybob77 All In 283.50
  2. #2
    I woul lead the turn here.

    I think I would call here. Does anybody call a 3bet with AJ? Not too afraid of AA/KK.
  3. #3
    raise more preflop, to like $33

    c-bet the flop for more. 10-10 will call a $45 bet the same as a $35. We are of his calling range preflop, and the flop significantly improved our equity.

    check folding turn against an unknown is reasonable, since weaker pairs are usually checking behind.
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  4. #4
    i hope u called so we know what he had

    his line is so stupid that his preflop call may have been so stupid as well, eg AJs.... i dont like this spot and prolly fold. (but as always, with read i may call)
  5. #5
    your PFR should be around 24-28 IMO so given you raised way too small PF his range is bigger.

    easy fold with no reads
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  6. #6
    I think TJs, JKs, J9s, T9 are also in villains range. But I don't think a J or boat is gonna push the turn, that's a massive overbet. T9s could do it.

    I vote call.
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    I'd raise more preflop. Turn is a fold IMO, I can see a stupid villain doing this with a jack all day.
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  8. #8
    Looks fine, now call.
  9. #9
    hero positions his cursor to the call button, covers his eyes, and presses the mouse button. he waits in silence, as the sound of the river card bestows upon him. the rush of blood throughout his body is staggering, and still with his eyes covered, the sound of the chips moving towards the winner chimes in like a church bell in the distance.

    still with his eyes covered, the sound of dealing for the next hand has already started. ready to face his fears, he slowly uncovers his eyes and opens them, expecting to see a reload dialog thinking no one would be stupid enough to do that on the turn without trip jacks.

    to his surprise, there was no dialog. there was only 2 cards dealt to him, awaiting his action. hero quickly clicks fold, because the cards were crap, and goes to the history to see what the other player had.

    77. wtf?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    hero positions his cursor to the call button, covers his eyes, and presses the mouse button. he waits in silence, as the sound of the river card bestows upon him. the rush of blood throughout his body is staggering, and still with his eyes covered, the sound of the chips moving towards the winner chimes in like a church bell in the distance.

    still with his eyes covered, the sound of dealing for the next hand has already started. ready to face his fears, he slowly uncovers his eyes and opens them, expecting to see a reload dialog thinking no one would be stupid enough to do that on the turn without trip jacks.

    to his surprise, there was no dialog. there was only 2 cards dealt to him, awaiting his action. hero quickly clicks fold, because the cards were crap, and goes to the history to see what the other player had.

    77. wtf?!
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  11. #11
    ummm i pray u called here, I'm betting you're ahead 90% of the time.

    Although i do the ole bet turn bet river given the information you did. However, if i knew he was prone to making large protective bets i'd check the turn for sure.
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    i know 77 is what he had, but why did no one consider..

    88 and possibly 44. he cold called a raise and a RR pf. screams pp to me.
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  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper
    88 and possibly 44. he cold called a raise and a RR pf. screams pp to me.
    well, just like Jx, why the sudden overbet when a check from me is almos always weakness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    hero positions his cursor to the call button, covers his eyes, and presses the mouse button. he waits in silence, as the sound of the river card bestows upon him. the rush of blood throughout his body is staggering, and still with his eyes covered, the sound of the chips moving towards the winner chimes in like a church bell in the distance.

    still with his eyes covered, the sound of dealing for the next hand has already started. ready to face his fears, he slowly uncovers his eyes and opens them, expecting to see a reload dialog thinking no one would be stupid enough to do that on the turn without trip jacks.

    to his surprise, there was no dialog. there was only 2 cards dealt to him, awaiting his action. hero quickly clicks fold, because the cards were crap, and goes to the history to see what the other player had.

    77. wtf?!
    haha nh
  15. #15
    meh, ok maybe they do sometimes have f all

    EverestPoker Game #1933435245: Table Tokyo-0 - $1.00/$2.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:20:01 - 2007/08/13
    Seat 1: newananas69 ($397.55)
    Seat 2: Dokterg ($190.65)
    Seat 3: P3d3 ($58.10)
    Seat 4: ML13 ($262.35)
    Seat 6: jo62 ($119.05)
    Seat 7: DaGOAT ($274.50)
    Seat 8: Ventus78 ($193.53)
    Seat 9: picard7 ($228.70)
    Seat 10: paulo7575 ($65.65)
    P3d3 posts the small blind of $1.00
    ML13 posts the big blind of $2.00
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DaGOAT[Kc Kh]
    jo62 calls $2.00
    DaGOAT raises to $9.00
    Ventus78 folds
    picard7 folds
    paulo7575 folds
    newananas69 folds
    Dokterg calls $9.00
    P3d3 folds
    ML13 folds
    jo62 calls $7.00
    *** FLOP *** [4h 9d 8d]
    jo62 bets $2.00
    DaGOAT raises to $26.00
    Dokterg folds
    jo62 calls $24.00
    *** TURN *** [4h 9d 8d] [9h]
    jo62 bets $82.00
    DaGOAT raises to $239.50 and is all-in
    jo62 calls $2.05 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet of $155.45 returned to DaGOAT
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    jo62 shows [6d Jd]
    DaGOAT shows [Kc Kh]
    *** RIVER *** [4h 9d 8d 9h] [8c]
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Board: [4h 9d 8d 9h 8c]
    DaGOAT collects $247.10
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    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper
    88 and possibly 44. he cold called a raise and a RR pf. screams pp to me.
    well, just like Jx, why the sudden overbet when a check from me is almos always weakness?
    i can still see a 4 doing this. bombing AI to look like a scared hand, but in reality its the nuts. whatever the move has beneath it, at 200NL, does it still mean, "i'm maybe good here, but i'm still scared."

    maybe that stops somewhere between 25 and 200 levels.
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  17. #17
    not sure, i've on occasion overbet shoved myself with the nuts/near-nuts hoping for a call and it's worked sometimes.
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    just didnt know if it still gets done up there.

    common move at micros.
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