Who would C-bet this all overs flop?

[GatorJH]

Setup - Late in a $22 on Stars. Both players are solid. Do you C-Bet this on this board? If so, why and if not, why not?
Also, if you bet how much are you betting? All-in?

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Hero (t2950)
SB (t5430)
BB (t5120)

Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
Hero raises to t600, SB calls t500, 1 fold.

Flop: (t1400) , , (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

[Trikflow77]

No your stack it 2 small

[taipan168]

If there are no antes, I like 500 to go preflop. With antes 600 is OK.

I wouldn't c-bet that flop, as Trik said you are too short and that flop is way too dangerous.

[JeffreyGB]

In a generic $22, I doubt I c-bet. You could certainly make an argument for doing so against a player you have a read on.

For bet-sizing, I think a shove is too much of an overbet most of the time - it may increase the range of hands calling you. Further, if you bet 900ish with the right read, you can know that you're folding all hands you beat and many that beat you, precisely because they are going to know that you're committed. A raise doesn't just mean an Ace - it means a big one. In which case you're not committed, because you've gain such valuable info to know you're way way behind.

Another consideration: the more folds you get preflop, the less you should c-bet here, and vice versa.

[mukaka]

You are the one raising so after he checks the flop I would c-bet here.. But if I were the first to act at the flop I wouldn't c-bet of course.. He might fold a King, Queen, or other PP that he called your raise with..

[GatorJH]

If there are no antes, I like 500 to go preflop. With antes 600 is OK.

I agree that a 500 bet here would accomplish the same as a 600 bet and hate to admit that the 600 bet is because it was easier at the time to hit raise twice than change the figure (I was playing a big hand in the other SNG I was in at the same time)

I wouldn't c-bet that flop, as Trik said you are too short and that flop is way too dangerous.

I would argue that my small stack size is the reason why the C-bet makese sense. Can I really afford to give up on this hand just because it is scary to me when it could be just as scary to villian? What range of hands could he have called here with (versus putting in a re-raise) and how do those hands match up with what we "could" be holding?

[taipan168]

I would argue that my small stack size is the reason why the C-bet makese sense. Can I really afford to give up on this hand just because it is scary to me when it could be just as scary to villian? What range of hands could he have called here with (versus putting in a re-raise) and how do those hands match up with what we "could" be holding?

Meh, I don't hate c-betting this flop particularly after opp has checked. I guess if you bet 800 you still have 1550 chips left if opp shoves over. That said, I can think of better flops to c-bet than this one!

Re what he might have that he would flat call with rather than re-raise, I have no idea. I wouldn't flat call with anything here unless I was slowplaying AA or KK (which I wouldn't do very often at all). I suppose small-medium pocket pairs, Ax and big broadway cards that might hit middle or bottom pair with a gutshot are hands that he might have.

[TLR]

I would bet it, this is a very dangerous board for anything less them 2 pair or up, and even with 2 pair I would bet it, especially bottom pair, so the fact that villian checks is a good sign.
I think JGB's line about bet size is the correct one

[GatorJH]

In a generic $22, I doubt I c-bet. You could certainly make an argument for doing so against a player you have a read on.

For bet-sizing, I think a shove is too much of an overbet most of the time - it may increase the range of hands calling you. Further, [b]if you bet 900ish with the right read, you can know that you're folding all hands you beat and many that beat you, precisely because they are going to know that you're committed. A raise doesn't just mean an Ace - it means a big one. In which case you're not committed, because you've gain such valuable info to know you're way way behind.

Another consideration: the more folds you get preflop, the less you should c-bet here, and vice versa.

I bolded the things that went through my head as I was debating the C-Bet. I did, in fact, put in a 800 chip bet and villian folded.