Aces, bad turn

[drmcboy]

Stars 50 freeze. Willy has been at the table 20 minutes or so, hasn't done much. I was super short a few hands ago, then won a flip, then the hand before this I had KK vs 77 ( I also raised 3x with the KK).

Play the flop different?

Can I do anything besides move in on turn?


PokerStars Game #11879118932: Tournament #59855032, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/09/04 - 23:45:04 (ET)
Table '59855032 22' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Improved (7130 in chips)
Seat 2: xBenj (6597 in chips)
Seat 3: Willy Willy (21874 in chips)
Seat 4: passiv (6358 in chips)
Seat 5: jaguardave (7787 in chips)
Seat 6: Lucki154 (8959 in chips)
Seat 7: denton88 (1850 in chips)
Seat 8: cuthbertt (16240 in chips)
Seat 9: rrreckless (16810 in chips)
Improved: posts the ante 50
xBenj: posts the ante 50
Willy Willy: posts the ante 50
passiv: posts the ante 50
jaguardave: posts the ante 50
Lucki154: posts the ante 50
denton88: posts the ante 50
cuthbertt: posts the ante 50
rrreckless: posts the ante 50
Lucki154: posts small blind 300
denton88: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to cuthbertt [Ah Ad]
cuthbertt: raises 1200 to 1800
rrreckless: calls 1800
Improved: folds
xBenj: folds
Willy Willy: calls 1800
passiv: folds
jaguardave: folds
Lucki154: folds
denton88: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 5d Qc]
cuthbertt: bets 4975
rrreckless: folds
Willy Willy: calls 4975
*** TURN *** [3d 5d Qc] [Qs]
cuthbertt:

[chardrian]

Well... you could check/fold the turn.

[mcatdog]

You're pot committed, just shove and let him figure out what he can call you with.

[drmcboy]

Well... you could check/fold the turn.

I don't know how to take this

[dev]

I don't know, a lot beats you, it comes to a read on the player. In position, his range is like the unlikely flush draw, QJ, KQ, AQ, 55, 33... unless I'm way off, I think you can get out with some chips here.

Can he be calling the flop with a lesser pair here? If the guy could be floating, I guess you have to push. If not, c/f.

[drmcboy]

why do you think a FD is unlikely?

[Sykedupp]

I like him floating here, shove turn, or even check/call, to "fall" into his little floaty dance trap.

-Chris

[dev]

why do you think a FD is unlikely?

Well, we have the Ac, so that eliminates the nut flush draw. He's getting 11:5, but if we have a hand, then we're likely to push the turn and if we don't have a hand we're not likely to pay off a flush. So I have to think most players aren't flat calling with a flush draw.

[mcatdog]

Problem with checking is that he won't always bet his flush draw. If you check and he goes all-in then you're usually behind but not always and you're playing a guessing game. I'd rather just go all-in and let him be the one to guess whether his tens are good.