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    Default 16k hands of 200NL

    Overall:

    Hands played: 16313
    Won $ WSF: 40.70%
    Won $ SD: 50.70%
    Went to SD: 20.8%
    Att to Steal Blinds: 30.80%
    VPIP/PFR: 19.30/14.40

    Aggression on:

    Flop: 5.20
    Turn: 3.75
    River: 2.50

    VPIP/PFR By Position:

    UTG: 10.8/10.8
    MP: 11.8/11.1
    CO: 23/21
    BTN: 27.5/23.5

    Blind Play:

    Definitely my weakest area, since i don't have any good ideas about how to play better. How am i doing here?

    SB: 12.7/5.9
    Won $ WSF: 36%
    Won $ SD: 60%
    Folded SB to Steal: 88%

    BB: 25.5/13
    Won $ WSF: 31%
    Won $ SD: 45%
    Folded BB to steal: 83%

    Miscellaneous

    1). I am -7 Buy ins with one pair hands. I read somewhere that two pair is the weakest strength hand that should be a long term winner. Still, am i losing too much?

    2). Important hands i am losing money with:
    K-Jo
    K-10o
    J-10s
    J-10o


    3). I am a winner with A-Ks - A-10o. I am winning comfortably with most of my pocket pairs, but i am not as worried about them since that could easily be distorted by the sample size (as well as most of my stats i suppose ).


    Thanks in advance
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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    everything looks good as far as i can see. you could stand to play a few more hands from UTG and MP though. What do you currently play UTG?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    everything looks good as far as i can see. you could stand to play a few more hands from UTG and MP though. What do you currently play UTG?
    My UTG/MP range usually looks like A-J+/K-Q/2-2+/occassional SC.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
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    stats seem ok until the sb - 12/6 seems wayyy too tight. i raise or call a lot more vs limpers, and prob raise the bb/co/btn more.
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    can i post mine comparison?
    (im doing it anyway)

    Hands 27171
    W$WSF 37%
    won $ SD 50.41%
    went to SD 26.5%
    Att to steal blinds 22% (lol)
    VPIP 20/12

    Aggression
    3
    2.25
    1.75

    My pos stats are literally 20/14 in all spots except button that is 25/20.

    AKo is my main spew -1300
    TT is also negative but due to 2 huuuge coolers

    JTo is break even (id expect to steal better?)
    Ato is a loser, only slightly (raising it UTG might stop this)
    99 is a loser.

    If i take spewing with AK out of my range (a leak i have now definitly plugged im 1.25bbs/100 over 30k~ but i think i have been running way too bad, so im happy from my evgraph im a 5-7bbs/100 winner at 200nl.

    P>S sorry for hijack but i was gona post later anyway as my results at 400nl are more encorgaing and im gona do a Gabe and take shots now on RB sites before i make a 2.8k withdraw sometime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benny999
    stats seem ok until the sb - 12/6 seems wayyy too tight. i raise or call a lot more vs limpers, and prob raise the bb/co/btn more.

    I have mostly cut out 3betting from the blinds without a legitimate hand, unless the BTN or a loose CO opens. How close should my SB 3bet range vs. CO opens resemble my BTN 3bet range vs. the same CO open? I guess i am asking how important do you think position is in a 3bet pot? (Intuitively it seems like it would be less important than it would be in a raised pot since the stacks would be shallower).
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    can i post mine comparison?
    (im doing it anyway)

    Hands 27171
    W$WSF 37%
    won $ SD 50.41%
    went to SD 26.5%
    Att to steal blinds 22% (lol)
    VPIP 20/12

    Aggression
    3
    2.25
    1.75

    My pos stats are literally 20/14 in all spots except button that is 25/20.

    AKo is my main spew -1300
    TT is also negative but due to 2 huuuge coolers

    JTo is break even (id expect to steal better?)
    Ato is a loser, only slightly (raising it UTG might stop this)
    99 is a loser.

    If i take spewing with AK out of my range (a leak i have now definitly plugged im 1.25bbs/100 over 30k~ but i think i have been running way too bad, so im happy from my evgraph im a 5-7bbs/100 winner at 200nl.

    P>S sorry for hijack but i was gona post later anyway as my results at 400nl are more encorgaing and im gona do a Gabe and take shots now on RB sites before i make a 2.8k withdraw sometime soon.
    No worries about hijacking miffed.

    It's possible we are making the same mistakes to have J-10o be a loser for both of us. I usually will call behind another caller instead of 3betting this hand (IMO this hand would suck in a 3bet pot), and don't like most boards enough to continue past the turn. So i am probably folding too much to continued pressure. I probably just need to reevalute what flops are good for my J-10o in multiway pots. Just my thoughts on what i am probably doing wrong with the hand.

    I understand that the types of opponents we play against are quite different, so i don't think i can really comment on the rest of the stats.

    I know one big reason that A-K is a big winner for me because i usually either 4bet/fold to a 3bet. Other than that i would suppose the positive results are from positive variance and good value extraction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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    Another thing i just noticed about my stats; My $ Won UTG is 1/5th of my $ Won on the Button. Does this most likely mean:

    1). I play a good amount of hands OOP
    2). I am not playing a good amount of hands IP
    3). I am running hot OOP (48% $ Won @ SD, 53% Won $ WSF)
    4). I am not playing well/running well IP (44% $ Won @ SD, 50% Won $ WSF)

    I only ask this because i noted that SmackinYaUp's website mentioned that, in one of his older databases, his $ Won UTG was ~1/20th of his money won on the Button (sample approx. 60k hands)

    Also, i am cutting A-J out of my UTG opening range, and replacing it with some A-xs hands. Hopefully this will slightly open my range in EP, and also give me more hands4bet light 3bettors with. I recently thought, 'my 4bet range in EP is really slighted towards monsters, i should change something to balance my range. hmm.. A-xs?'

    Given 200NL isn't super aggro, i think opening A-J UTG isn't going to be for value, and becuase it often gets me into difficult spots later in the hand.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill
    Another thing i just noticed about my stats; My $ Won UTG is 1/5th of my $ Won on the Button. Does this most likely mean:

    1). I play a good amount of hands OOP
    2). I am not playing a good amount of hands IP
    3). I am running hot OOP (48% $ Won @ SD, 53% Won $ WSF)
    4). I am not playing well/running well IP (44% $ Won @ SD, 50% Won $ WSF)

    I only ask this because i noted that SmackinYaUp's website mentioned that, in one of his older databases, his $ Won UTG was ~1/20th of his money won on the Button (sample approx. 60k hands)

    Also, i am cutting A-J out of my UTG opening range, and replacing it with some A-xs hands. Hopefully this will slightly open my range in EP, and also give me more hands4bet light 3bettors with. I recently thought, 'my 4bet range in EP is really slighted towards monsters, i should change something to balance my range. hmm.. A-xs?'

    Given 200NL isn't super aggro, i think opening A-J UTG isn't going to be for value, and becuase it often gets me into difficult spots later in the hand.
    My UTG range still includes A9o+ but does include A2s+ in nearly every case, only thing is im playing with this at the moment to see if i can play a 10/10 UTG game, but its too likely ill see 98d UTG and hit my raise button anyway.

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