At what BI will i see a dramatic change in competition?

[DetroitHusling101]

Is the jump from 3.40's to 6.50's a big change in competition ? Or still pretty donk-filled?
What's your guys' thoughts on the $5.50's compared to Turbo's? I'm not sure which one i should mess around with. Probally the 6.50's since all i've been playing is Turbo's....
When do you see the competition level drastically change? The 11's ?
I sharkscope at least 5 of my opponents a day when playing and seems only but 1 or 2 have had a positive ROI and profits out of the 20+ i've checked.

[daven]

be a little careful with sharkscope stats. For some sites they only include some sngs... I love my sharkscope stats, i learnt to play poker online by playing loads of sngs and losing. I've since recouped all those losses playing cash ring, and i imagine i would do better if i revisited sngs. At that stage I thought:
* AT, KJ were strong hands
* Draws were worth chasing cos if i hit i get an amazing hand
* Pretty unlikely my TPTK is beaten here
* What are pot-odds?
* What's a c-bet?
* cards are more important than position
* I'll just bluff!
etc..... anyway, take sharkscope stats with a grain of salt. A lot of players start out losing sngs, then come back later and a lot stronger...

[Deanglow]

There is almost no difference between the $3 and $6 turbos. The $11 180 man turbo is arguably worse than the $3 9 mans. the $15 turbos are a little less donkfilled but still easy. The $5 and $10 non-turbos I think have a bit higher skill level than the $3 and $6 turbos. Very beatable and if you're half-way decent you'll be fine.

[TLR]

There is almost no difference between the $3 and $6 turbos. The $11 180 man turbo is arguably worse than the $3 9 mans. the $15 turbos are a little less donkfilled but still easy. The $5 and $10 non-turbos I think have a bit higher skill level than the $3 and $6 turbos. Very beatable and if you're half-way decent you'll be fine.

I havent played the 3.4, the $16 are a notch tougher then the 6.5, especially since there are a lot of multitabler decent players there.

The $11 180 people turbo require a lot of adjustment IMHO , the stacks are very shallow when you get down to 50-60 people that you have to build a stack which means a lot of risks

[CoccoBill]

I can only really compare the 1-table levels at party, and I'm not sure if they can be compared to other sites, but this is my opinion:

$3 - absolutely ridiculous donkfest, 80% really bad players, no good or even decent players
$6 - still quite the same, maybe a few less mental patients and an ok player once a week
$11 - significant change, far tighter (yet nowhere near tight), some ok players, still a wealth of donks at every table
$22 - incrementally tighter, some decent regulars, maybe even an occasional good player. still very beatable with abc poker.
$33 - again incrementally tighter, total donks getting rare, usually a couple TAGGs who somewhat understand push/fold at almost every table. still beatable.
$55 - now this is where i'm hitting the ceiling currently. the regulars here are good, some a lot better than me. had to move down, but planning to move back when i get my BR up to the task. will definitely have to bring my a-game here and single-table at least to start with. i'm sure it's beatable, just not to me yet. :P

[marmot]

I play 6-max regulars and and am in the process of moving up from the $6's to the $12's. I think there's quite a big difference, the $6's are pretty poor but there are usually 2 or 3 winning players at the $12's.

[Im_new]

Is this any different at Full Tilt? I know a lot of players say that the comp at FTP is a bit tougher...any truth there?

[biondino]

The $11 180 man turbo is arguably worse than the $3 9 mans

Not when I play it isn't (though I pwn the $4.40 180-mans, it seems)

I play the Stars $13 and $16 turbo SNGs and I'd say they are visibly harder than the $5 and below level, but not to a ridiculous extent. If you're a decent observer of your opponents, you should be able to get an idea of how to play each of your villains withing say 15 minutes, and this is, more than anything, key to making money at this level - you're unlucky if there are 3 or 4 competent/decent players at your table, but even if there are, alter your play accordingly depending on whether you're in a hand against them or against a donk.

[hitorque]

I used to play the 6.50's for a long time and changed to the 5's. I am doing better on the 5's. Not only does the non turbo format give you more time to pick a good position to exploit, but seems like there are definitely a lotta donks in the 5's. Right now I am playing 4 5's at once, it is comfortable.

[TwoKicker]

I found the cometition at Full Tilt Significantly better than anywhere also I've played, mostly because alot more of the players seem to know fancy plays and moves whihc makes them harder to read.

[drmcboy]

as soon as you play against people better than you

[Geanosssss]

I rarely come across a winning player at the $5's when sharkscoped.

[taipan168]

What I've noticed is that with each step up in buyin that 1-2 donks are replaced with 1-2 half decent (or better) players. For example, at the $3.40s I'd say there are at most 2 decent players on every table but at the $60s there are usually at most 2 donks with the rest being decent players (except for the weekends when you get a lot of lower buyin losing players trying to chase their losses). At $100 and above my guess is that you only get the occasional donk.

That said, even half decent players have leaks which you can exploit if you know what they are. Bit hard to say without seeing their cards but at the buyins I play I find it's rare to find a player that plays absolutely perfectly every hand.

[CoccoBill]

(except for the weekends when you get a lot of lower buyin losing players trying to chase their losses)

My theory is that it's the Weekend Warriors[tm], people who don't regularly play but after a hard week at work knock down a beer or 2 and decide to have a go at the tables. :P