NL400: TT v LP 200BB deep

[JeffreyGB]

Villain was a 41/22 who would call any 3-bet preflop with the same range he called a single raise. Previously he'd called two bets with KJ on a K-high board in a 3-bet pot against my QQ. What's your line and why?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($751)
BB ($290.20)
UTG ($667.10)
MP ($406)
CO ($499.90)
Button ($1395.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T.
1 fold, MP raises to $16, 1 fold, Button calls $16, Hero raises to $62, 1 fold, MP folds, Button calls $44.

Flop: ($142) 4, 2, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $111, Button calls $111.

Turn: ($364) 6 (2 players)
Hero ???

[bode]

bet close to pot. your still ahead of his range here.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

I think check/folding the turn is fine. Given your notes, it seems unlikely he would bet at the pot with only a draw if checked to, and you may be betting into a pot where you are drawing dead.

Bet the river if a heart/8/J/Q/K/A doesn't hit, otherwise check/fold river as well.

[sauce123]

I think check/folding the turn is fine. Given your notes, it seems unlikely he would bet at the pot with only a draw if checked to, and you may be betting into a pot where you are drawing dead.

Bet the river if a heart/8/J/Q/K/A doesn't hit, otherwise check/fold river as well.

[gabe]

check fold might save u money when behind but never gets you any value

i definitely bet against this fish

[Genitruc]

bet pretty big imo

i don t like it but don t see any better lines. he has something like QhJx here a ton of the time.

[sauce123]

actually 218 seems kinda good

[JeffreyGB]

actually 218 seems kinda good

Could you elaborate on this?

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

check fold might save u money when behind but never gets you any value

i definitely bet against this fish

I can see how if betting the flop is good against this player, the turn therefore must also be good - seeing as the board didn't change.

[JeffreyGB]

actually 218 seems kinda good

Could you elaborate on this?

If called again on the turn, what are we doing on non-heart rivers? I'm interested both in A/K rivers and in blanks. Nearly any line on the river makes me unhappy. I guess betting and losing more to the flush is better than checking and losing value from all the random hands he could have.

[benny999]

if you get called again on the turn, then he probably has at least a pair with a heart or gutshot (assuming hes not crazy laggy). i know you say he calls every 3bet, but really would he call A8o or K8o? or peel the turn with AhJx type hands?

by default i doubt that, so i'd consider an offsuit A/K a blank. being pretty deep i think he'd just check behind hands you beat, and i doubt he'd hero call them (?), so i'd lean to check-folding the river. but if he auto-pots the river like some donks do, or if i had a read or weird feeling about it i might talk myself into calling a bet.

[JeffreyGB]

i know you say he calls every 3bet, but really would he call A8o or K8o? or peel the turn with AhJx type hands?

I don't know that he bets the river, but I have little doubt he calls the turn with the above hand types. He lost nearly a full buyin with 54s when his paired 4 didn't hold up to a preflop+flop+river bet (which was really funny given that his opponent also had 54s, but of the right suit).

[biondino]

It's worth remembering that Laggs play the way they do in part so that people with TT will call off 200bs with a small overpair.

[zook]

It's worth remembering that good Laggs play the way they do in part so that people with TT will call off 200bs with a small overpair, but most laggs play the way they do because they like action and don't know any better

fyp

[crazycrazy]

get info by checking turn

[Genitruc]

get info by checking turn

pot seems a little big to risk getting 9 outered by checking

[Numbr2intheWorld]

If you bet again you have to fold to a turn shove though, And the river is going to be real tricky, probably a c/f.

[JeffreyGB]

It's worth remembering that Laggs play the way they do in part so that people with TT will call off 200bs with a small overpair.

There's a big difference between a decent lag and a loose/passive station. The latter is the player described above.

[IowaSkinsFan]

b/f turn. 200